On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:24:03 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> >> We know that we cannot make our legs stand by arguing with them or >> proving that standing can occur, we must exercise direct sensory-motive >> participation and move our legs by ourselves. >> >> >>> and >>> just assume this if you want, but your phenomenology does not need >>> this. Comp mighty be false, but you need far better argument, >> >> >> You demand that the subtlest, most delicate truth in the universe kneel >> down to the vending machine of comp and bash it open with a brick. That's >> not the way that it works. The machine gets nothing from me. Not a single >> coin. I know that it has nothing without our patronage, and gives nothing >> back but its own mindless rules, empty images, plastic music, and rude >> interventions. >> >> >>> and for >>> this much more humility and study the worlds of many others and the >>> training in "scientific" argumentation. >>> >> >> There is little humility in comp. I see it as an ideology which feigns >> politeness but actually buries consciousness alive. >> >> >> Rhetoric. >> >> You can answer this, but in my reply, I will just say if I see or not an >> argument. >> > > Can sense not be allowed to represent itself in your court of argument? > How about: can't you see this isn't going anywhere? Bruno is repeating himself, while you enjoy, as the only one here, your own rhetoric variations, repeating the same content and biases over and over in linguistic strings, with only minor differences in use of metaphor and empty, albeit sometimes amusing expressions and figures of speech, that don't constitute a serious argument or proposal of ontology framing your ideas on "sense". Your zeal in seeking validation from Bruno by presenting yourself "as his equal confronting him", mirrors perhaps the doubt you have concerning your own thoughts, which is good indication of your intention to seek and test, because why else would you seek this validation? Then again, we are all each other's equals, so why force this with monster discussions of details of details, when we know the outcome: you will not consider comp as possibility or example and improvise linguistic tricks for the problems that come up in the edifice of your work on logical and mathematical levels, by putting aesthetics on a pedestal, which is also unconvincing as of today. Instead of taking the problems, criticisms arising here as some personal thing, take what you can learn or leave it; your work needs to overcome its limits and problems, and you won't get it done by forcing anybody here, including Bruno, to spoon feed you. > > Craig > > >> >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> Craig >> >> >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
