On 23 Apr 2014, at 18:49, 'Chris de Morsella <cdemorse...@yahoo.com>'
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On 23 Apr 2014, at 13:08, LizR wrote:
On 23 April 2014 22:29, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote:
Hi Liz,
The "billions" make sense to me, to be honest. Even before the
earth, we still didn't exist. It sounds like poetic liberty for "a
mind blowing amount of time".
Sure, but I think at the time "millions of years" was a mind-blowing
amount of time - actually it still is - and it would appear the
comment doesn't have any known source. So although I'd be happily
proved wrong on this, it just feels a bit anachronistic for Samuel
Clemens. Maybe just my personal bias.
>> Samuel Clemens? Was is not Mark Twain? I missed a post perhaps.
Mark Twain was the pen name of the author Samuel Clemens - so one
and the same.
Damned!
The morning/evening stars strike again!
You solved a mystery. Thanks.
Do someone know the estimate of the age of the universe at the time
of Mark Twain? Einstein though it was infinite, and I thought that
many physicists (including believer in Big Bang(s)) don't exclude
that.
Didn't most people still subscribe to that English or Scottish
Bishops calculation based on bible verse that concluded the earth
and the universe was some 6000 or so years ago in 4400 BC? There are
far too many, in this country at least - who still do believe in
this fairy tale.
What percentage? Are there catholic among them? I guess no but do a
quick research. Ah:
In 1996, Pope John Paul II stated that, "New findings lead us toward
the recognition of evolution as more than a hypothesis,"
Creationism concerns some evangelical christians. We should do studies
to understand how that is possible. I think that again, like with
cannabis, it is based on an exploitation of the A-in-B, and B-in-A
confusion. Scientology and all sects does that, and well, some
government on some matter.
Everyone does that confusion often, including myself, but that is why
we have to be vigilant. There is nothing wrong in interpreting wrongly
the evidences, if it can be revised later.
I ask myself: do those evangelical christians really believe in the
fairy tale? Scientology has also "weird" beliefs. In Europa you can be
considered as a Sect with such beliefs. I am OK with this, because if
we allow parents to teach contradiction (not just superstition) we
build future catastrophes.
Of course, strictly speaking, here John Paul II commit *the* error.
Evolution is and remain an hypothesis. Like the sun and the moon, and
earth.
If not it becomes a "religion" (a pseudo-religion). He should have
said instead simply that there are thousand of evidences for evolution
on a long period, and simply none for creation in less than 6000 years.
There are as many scientific evidences for creation in less than 6000
years than for the 'big danger' of cannabis. Testimonies but 0 facts.
Bruno
Chris
(And if we are digital machine, we have to take *all* true sigma_1
sentences, not just the e^iH, and their linear superpositions, and
that is *very* big).
cf
On 23 April 2014 11:37, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
"I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for
billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not
suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."'
--- Mark Twain
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