I do not find justification for human judgement or punishment for leaving one 
faith for another in the Quran. God gives us a lifetime to explore, study and 
make our choices, and the judgement will be done by God on Judgement Day which 
is scheduled for after death and resurrection. 

Consider this verse: 4:137 Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe 
(again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will 
not forgive them nor guide them on the way. 

How can anyone believe, reject and then believe again if some humans start 
playing God? It's another terrible thing that's being done in the name of 
religion. The problem is not God, the problem is people and their actions! 

Disbelieving is God and not taking this life's trials seriously will not wish 
away whatever is to follow.  

Samiya 

> On 30-May-2014, at 9:05 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2640367/Sudanese-doctor-facing-execution-marrying-U-S-Christian-gives-birth-baby-girl-squalid-jail.html
> 
> Brent
> 
> The political discourse matters, and explains a good deal. But
> there's something beneath it, something we don't want to look in
> the face: namely, that in India, as elsewhere in our darkening
> world, religion is the poison in the blood. Where religion
> intervenes, mere innocence is no excuse. Yet we go on skating
> around this issue, speaking of religion in the fashionable
> language of "respect". What is there to respect in any of this,
> or in any of the crimes now being committed almost daily around
> the world in religion's dreaded name? How well, with what fatal
> results, religion erects totems, and how willing we are to kill
> for them! And when we've done it often enough, the deadening of
> affect that results makes it easier to do it again. So India's
> problem turns out to be the world's problem. What happened in
> India has happened in God's name. The problem's name is God.
>       --- Salman Rushdie 2002
> 
> 
>> On 5/29/2014 7:35 PM, LizR wrote:
>> On 30 May 2014 14:26, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> These are people who are committing crimes in the name of religion. You, on 
>>> the outside, are horrified by such acts in the name of Islam, and are 
>>> terrified of it, rightly so. We, on the other hand, live in midst of this 
>>> blatant violation of the guidance in the Quran! What these elements have 
>>> not been able to find or insert in the Quran, they have created
>> 
>> Some of the people involved are priests, and some are students of Islam - do 
>> you think that these are people who are committing crimes in the name of 
>> religion? Again this is a straight question, I'm not drawing any conclusions 
>> at the moment.
>>> 
>>> On 30-May-2014, at 5:28 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> So which lot is it who does this                           sort of thing? 
>>>> Honest question.
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-27614359
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/10850212/Iranian-actress-Leila-Hatami-faces-public-flogging.html
>>>> 
>>>> http://m.inquirer.net/newsinfo/?id=606058
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