Yes, cycles absolutely can be broken, last things first, but first, people have to see in themselves that something is wrong. This, we must conclude is fairly, rare. The kind of people I am referring to, are the kind of people, that over your dead body, get to heaven in a little green boat, as the kiddie ditty went. On top of this we have unmedicated, and undermedicated, people with deep personality disorders. The Hatfield-McCoy thing when applied elsewhere in the world lack the cultural background. Also, there's no reward to stopping a bad habit, and there's no sufficient incentive to starting good ones. With the mental problem aspect there is something we can do, which is medication and therapy. With cultural-religious driven attacks, this is more complicated. But first, one must have the will and desire to radically change things, on the ground. The ruling elites, have no great incentive to do things which halt what is going on, nor, is there a great enough punishment, if they are doing political malpractice. Thus, the world rolls on as it has.
You assume people do violence for no reason other than that they are "vastly different" (whatever that really means). This is a faulty assumption -- IMO. People do violence, in almost every case because violence was done to them. Violence begets violence... it is a self-perpetuating cycle; a Hatfield and McCoy wheel that goes endlessly around greased by the bloodshed and carefully nurtured hatred of a really good feud. (and the Hatfield and McCoy feud is the stuff of legend in the US at least) It is a very rare event that anyone visits terrible deadly violence upon others out of the blue; it is either driven by a criminal profit motive or for blood revenge because of some grievous perceived or actual injury that violence occurs in real life. I am also a little curious what you mean by "vastly different". Are "other" folk not like you? Is their DNA different? Do their brains work differently? Or could it be that their own tribal call to violence mirrors your own (apparent call for violence to be visited upon these hypothetical "others")? If we stopped feeding into it maybe there would be less of this bad shit, making a bloody mess of the peaceful enjoyment of the many diverse pleasures of life and the exquisite sensation of being. The default is for cycles to keep rolling, but they can be broken. Chris -----Original Message----- From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 12, 2014 1:43 am Subject: RE: Pluto bounces back! You assume people do violence for no reason other than that they are "vastly different" (whatever that really means). This is a faulty assumption -- IMO. People do violence, in almost every case because violence was done to them. Violence begets violence... it is a self-perpetuating cycle; a Hatfield and McCoy wheel that goes endlessly around greased by the bloodshed and carefully nurtured hatred of a really good feud. (and the Hatfield and McCoy feud is the stuff of legend in the US at least) It is a very rare event that anyone visits terrible deadly violence upon others out of the blue; it is either driven by a criminal profit motive or for blood revenge because of some grievous perceived or actual injury that violence occurs in real life. I am also a little curious what you mean by "vastly different". Are "other" folk not like you? Is their DNA different? Do their brains work differently? Or could it be that their own tribal call to violence mirrors your own (apparent call for violence to be visited upon these hypothetical "others")? If we stopped feeding into it maybe there would be less of this bad shit, making a bloody mess of the peaceful enjoyment of the many diverse pleasures of life and the exquisite sensation of being. The default is for cycles to keep rolling, but they can be broken. Chris -----Original Message----- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] They do not, but their comrades in arms do. Its not your values, its theirs. People can be vastly, different. -----Original Message----- From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> On 11 June 2014 23:45, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: I don't know. To me, a huge fatality count for you homeland, might suggest a huge response. What if your murderers take your civilized response for weakness and prepare another attack? This would be my concern.t How do they do that from solitary confinement? . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
