On 3/16/2015 4:32 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015  meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net 
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    > you've exaggerated the example to create a straw man.  Watson has some 
local
    database, he doesn't access the web for everything; so my analogy is 
correct.


How is that a straw man?? The Jeopardy champagne Watson could't access the web for *ANYTHING*. All Watson had was his memory, take away that and Watson would be as clueless as a college professor who had totally lost his memory.

OK, change the analogy a little. Suppose you substituted for Watson's database one learned entirely from the Conservapedia. Then Watson would be quite incompetent, but I see no reason to think Watson would be less conscious.

     > Bruno would say he's less competent, but more intelligent, but you seem 
to
identify competence and intelligence.

If a person behaves is a certain way then he's intelligent, but if a robot behaves in the EXACT SAME WAY then he's just competent. And that my friend is 100% triple distilled extra virgin Bullshit.

Wrong distinction. Bruno identifies intelligence with learning. So a small child is very intelligent, even though he isn't very competent.

Brent

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