On 07 Apr 2015, at 20:19, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

I know people who do math really well, I am eternally envious.

Math is the easiest branch to understand; it needs only works to get the results of the others. I think Gauss said that, and I agree, but unfortunately math is also used as a modern technic for torturing the kids, and it indeed makes people believe that it needs some gift or superiority to appreciate them. Something a bit like that, plus chance, might be needed to be creative and find a solution of an open problem, but to understand the works of the other, you can always find a path which suits you, if you are patient enough.

The task of proving a new interesting theorem can be gigantic, but the beauty does not reside in that, the beauty are in the results. Only by being in love with some collection of results, you can develop familiarity and by chance see a relation missed by your colleagues and "masters".

What is it that you don't understand in math?

If you work enough you can understand that all machines can understand and explore the mathematical reality, and that there is for every taste: the Baroque, the Jazzy, the Classical, the Romantic, the Dramatic, the Comical, the Thrilling, etc. It is is huge, and if computationalism is true, just by being, you already solve a math problem.


The feudalism thing is likely correct but beyond this specific discussion. They are winning and we are not. I add, sigh!

-----Original Message-----
From: LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 7, 2015 1:11 am
Subject: Re: The Object

By the way, the phrase "above my paygrade" was invented by someone less intelligent than you to keep you in your place, at least until they get around to reintroducing full scale feudalism.


Well said Liz.

Bruno




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