Ha! I can believe that a hypercomputing lobian machine can zip through the
platonic realities that likely exist, but I must say professor Marchal, that
experiencing mathematics at the chalk board, my dendrites do not function as
well as your own. I will say the obvious that my neurological wiring must have
been sub par when attempting to learn and, equally, important, memorize the
patterns that mathematics involves. Memorize the patterns, then plug in
whatever numbers. I believe that maths teachers run into differences in human
neurobiology, rather than bad teaching skills or lazy students, or whatever
excuse. Thus, being able to learn mathematics is truly a gift, and is not
bestowed on everyone.
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On 07 Apr 2015, at 20:19, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
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<font color="black" size="2" face="arial">I know people who do math really
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Math is the easiest branch to understand; it needs only works to get the
results of the others. I think Gauss said that, and I agree, but unfortunately
math is also used as a modern technic for torturing the kids, and it indeed
makes people believe that it needs some gift or superiority to appreciate them.
Something a bit like that, plus chance, might be needed to be creative and find
a solution of an open problem, but to understand the works of the other, you
can always find a path which suits you, if you are patient enough.
The task of proving a new interesting theorem can be gigantic, but the beauty
does not reside in that, the beauty are in the results. Only by being in love
with some collection of results, you can develop familiarity and by chance see
a relation missed by your colleagues and "masters".
What is it that you don't understand in math?
If you work enough you can understand that all machines can understand and
explore the mathematical reality, and that there is for every taste: the
Baroque, the Jazzy, the Classical, the Romantic, the Dramatic, the Comical, the
Thrilling, etc. It is is huge, and if computationalism is true, just by being,
you already solve a math problem.
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<font color="black" size="2" face="arial">The feudalism thing is likely
correct but beyond this specific discussion. They are winning and we are not. I
add, sigh!</font>
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By the way, the phrase "above my paygrade" was invented by someone less
intelligent than you to keep you in your place, at least until they get around
to reintroducing full scale feudalism.
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Well said Liz.
Bruno
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