2015-04-15 5:12 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>: > On 4/14/2015 9:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > 2015-04-14 18:40 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>: > >> On 4/13/2015 11:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> >> >> Le 14 avr. 2015 08:04, "Stathis Papaioannou" <stath...@gmail.com> a >> écrit : >> >> > Certainly some theories of consciousness might not allow copying, but >> > that cannot be a logical requirement. To claim that something is >> > logically impossible is to claim that it is self-contradictory. >> >> I don't see why a theory saying like I said in the upper paragraph that >> consciousness could not be copied would be selfcontradictory... You have to >> see that when you say consciousness is duplicatable, you assume a lot of >> things about the reality and how it is working, and that you're making a >> metaphysical commitment, a leap of faith concerning what you assume the >> real to be and the reality itself. That's all I'm saying, but clearly if >> computationalism is true consciousness is obviously duplicatable. >> >> Quentin >> >> In order to say what duplication of consciousness is and whether it is >> non-contradictory you need some propositional definition of it. Not just, >> an instrospective "well everybody knows what it is". >> >> > It seems that's what I was explaining... or are you answering to Stathis > ? > > > No, it's not clear to me what definition of consciousness you're using. > Are you supposing that two streams of thought which are identical would > constitute two different consciousness'es? >
I have don't have to have one, I don't pretend anything about consciousness, I'm saying Stathis does have one *to pretend* consciousness is duplicable; and that his statement "consciousness is duplicable" is rooted in a metaphysical commitment to one (o r more) theorie(s) about reality, without that commitment "consciousness is duplicable" has no meaning by itself and is not an absolute truth... are you really reading what I write, or only what you want to read ? Quentin > > Computationalism would say that a brain is duplicable, but as soon as the > copy had a different thought there would be two different consciousnesses. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
