On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 2015-05-06 3:51 GMT+02:00 meekerdb <[email protected]>: > >> On 5/5/2015 5:34 PM, LizR wrote: >> >> On 5 May 2015 at 11:12, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Where does the money go once it's bought votes? >>> >>> >>> It's redistributed. So after the Koch brothers spend $889,000,000 in >>> the next election to cast 29,816 votes, each of the 129 million voters will >>> get back $6.88 (plus the $1 they put in plus a share of whatever other big >>> spenders put in). Actually I think the Bros will be better off buying >>> attack ads with their billion. >>> >> >> Ah, I see. Since the various interest groups already spend millions on >> spreading their views via various media, presumably one caveat with QV >> would be that any form of political advertising or support for parties or >> editorialising "outside" the system would be illegal, and heavily penailsed >> if it occurred - otherwise the current system is far more efficient from >> the viewpoint of the 1%, and they will just stick with using their >> newspapers and TV channels to support their chosen candidates. >> >> >> I think you're right that such a restriction would be needed; but I don't >> know whether it's actually proposed that way. I've never studied voting >> systems much beyond Arrow's theorem, but I know a mathematician who's >> writing a book about various systems. He's not impressed by quadratic >> voting: >> >> http://rangevoting.org/MonetizedRV.html >> >> Brent >> > > But what would prevent the rich to invest a one time big thing that would > outlaw quadratic voting, ensure their wealth and still gives them power > through a dictator ship ? > > It's like you have 3 wishes... The first, I want to have an infinity of > wishes... They would took over the system as soon as it is in place (if > they're evil... but that's what is implied here imo). > This is a good point, and it shows that no amount of cleverness in a system can replace citizens enforcing the basic values of society and refusing abuse. Telmo. > > Quentin > > >> >> >> >> Or am I missing the point? >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy > Batty/Rutger Hauer) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
