On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:32 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 1 June 2015 at 06:37, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > LizR:
> > I find it "funny" if so many thinking minds on this list (and around the
> > world?) take your
> >
> > "...You are simply assuming the truth of what you have so far failed to
> > demonstrate."
> >
> > seriously, YET the list continues in this endless self-assured worldview
> > debate - some times even including views from OTHER 'religions' as well.
> > So far I have not seen any justification to 'beheadings', 'floggings',
> > 'stonings' and other brutal activity recalling the medieval
> inhumanities, as
> > pertaining to the "goodness" of the God believed by such perpetrators.
> They
> > believe to be honored for their brutality and inhumanity by eternal
> bliss in
> > Heaven.
> > Any remarks to that? it may be even more relevant than the Creatorship
> etc.
> > JM
>
> I think Samiya would say that if God thinks beheadings, floggings and
> stonings are good, then they are good, by definition.
>

I hope that was a question.
The issues that J Mikes has raised are of an organisational nature, to be
implemented by governments after legal evaluation for the maintenance of
justice in society. I've gone into the details and shared my understanding
of the Quranic injunctions earlier, hence I will not go into those details
again.
However, I would like to take this opportunity to highlight the actions
which are required of individuals seeking 'eternal bliss in Heaven', some
of which are: respecting and honouring parents; being kind and caring to
family, relatives, friends, neighbours, travellers, etc.; being
compassionate towards the poor: feeding the hungry, helping people pay off
their debts, freeing the slaves; taking care of orphans and so on.
Only recently I was studying some verses and researching the Internet for
relevant data, and I was surprised to learn that though slavery was
abolished years ago, yet 21-36 million people are still enslaved in various
forms and guises. This might be of interest:

World Hunger & Slavery
*Population Growth & Food Resources*
*Morality & Homicide*

*Abstract*
Quran (6:151, 17:30-31) identifies poverty as the reason for hunger, and
dismisses the notion that population growth leads to hunger, explicitly
prohibiting the killing of children due to or out of fear of poverty. At
another place, the Quran (Chapter 90) exhorts the free citizens to reduce
inequality by freeing slaves and feeding the hungry, stating that these are
the difficult yet required things to do. Quran (2:177) lists giving of
wealth to the needy and freeing of slaves among the righteous deeds.

According to the statistics, the agricultural yields are more than enough
for the current and forecasted world population, yet one in every nine
people on our planet suffers hunger every day! Though decrease in
population growth is promoted as a remedy to the problem, yet no direct
correlation has been found between population density and hunger. Unjust
economic systems lead to Poverty and Inequality,  which in turn cause
Hunger, Indebtedness and Enslavement!

An estimated 21 - 36 million people are enslaved today. Though legal
slavery was finally banished from all countries in the world by 1981, yet
its only changed in title and form - humans continue to be enslaved by
fellow human beings.

This article explores the meaning of the divine instruction and guidance in
terms of the relevant information available.
http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/05/world-hunger-slavery.html

Samiya

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