John,

Let us be completely honest here. You have more or less destroyed this
mailing list.
It is not that you disagree with something, it is that you use
manipulative techniques to score points (the only thing you really
seem to care about):

- You take people's sentences out of context and reply to that;
- You overgeneralize what someone said and use it against the person
until the end of times;
- You insult people who never wrote an unkind word to you;
- You cut an paste jokes that weren't funny the first time around. You
do this again and again and again;
- When you lose and argument you immediately change the subject...
- ... and then months later you "forget" that you already lost the
argument and bring back the same drivel;
- (this happened not one, not two times, not three... you get the idea)
- You play the "no-bullshit scientist" role while constantly resorting
to arguments from authority.

Most sane people sooner or later realize that the only way to win this
game is not to play it. You started debating dozens of people here,
now about three are left. Soon it will be only you, and then you will
be able to fully enjoy your victory, I guess.

Have fun!
Telmo.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:05 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016  Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>>> >>
>>> I can stop here.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> That is probably wise.
>
>
> But deep down John Clark knew Bruno Marchal wouldn't stop here, John Clark
> knew Bruno Marchal wouldn't be wise.
>
>
>>
>> >
>> but apparently once you get that there is no problem with the pronouns and
>> name,
>
>
> Bullshit.
> When names are substituted for personal pronouns the
> vapidness of the "proof" becomes obvious and the entire argument falls to
> pieces. All Bruno Marchal has done in
> Bruno Marchal's "proof" is to sweep metaphysical puzzles under a rug made of
> nothing but personal pronouns.
>
>>
>> >
>> you just came back to your oldest strategy (faking a confusion between 1p
>> and 3p points of view
>
>
> On the contrary there is no confusion, Bruno Marchal's error is crystal
> clear.
>  Bruno Marchal
> thinks that by defining "1p" as "I" and "I" as "1p", and by defining "3p" as
> "he" and "he" as "3p" great philosophical progress has been made.
>
>>
>> >
>> That strategy has already been debunked more than one times by many people
>> on this list.
>
>
> Bullshit.
>
>>
>> >
>> It would be most boring to make another tour.
>
>
> And yet no doubt you (Mr. 3p) will.
>
>>
>> >
>> Of course if any one else has still a problem with the first person
>> indeterminacy
>> [...]
>>
>
> Nor does Mr. 1p have a problem with it.  I (or Mr. 1p) have no problem
> whatsoever with
> first person indeterminacy
> and never have
> , for as far back as I (or Mr. 1p) can remember I (or Mr. 1p) have been
> unable to always know what would happen next.
>
>>
>> >
>> at this point, without further motivation to do so, I will not add
>> anything
>
>
> You (or Mr. 3p) haven't added anything in a very long time.
>
>
>
>  John K Clark
>
>
>
>
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