There was a scifi short by writer Wil McCarthy several months back, which was titled, Wyatt Earp on Mars. This is where several centuries from now, a person gets produced who has the personal identity, and yes memories, of the great American gunfighter. This version 2.0 was created by an employee of a Martian corporation, trying to stop thefts of minerals processed by this mars companies mines. A person with the background of the historical, original, Wyatt Earp, the memories, etc is generated, to create a law enforcement division to halt the robberies and thefts. The spoiler now follows in which skip down a line...
Earp and his deputies that he trained, end up being killed by well armed robbers, and being re-created by the Ceo, with their memories intact, right up to the moment they were slain. The deputies are appalled at having been killed, as being disturbing, but Earp is disgusted by their complaints since he is based on a person who came from and age when dead was dead-no second chances. Earp is never convinced that he is the real Wyatt, but ponders about how he has all these specific memories, that the science of this day could never have known? Earp, then tells the CEO, "Look, you want these robberies, stopped, what I need is a budget!" My whole point is Johns notion of personal identity goes well with McCathy's storyline, and yes, the story relies also on the magical tech of teleportation. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail -----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Jul 14, 2016 01:54 PM Subject: Re: Holiday Exercise <div id="AOLMsgPart_2_1eab6bd7-2c4e-4ae9-9a62-f202fc7c7fb0"> <div class="aolReplacedBody"><div dir="ltr"><div class="aolmail_gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <p>On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Bruce Kellett <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au";>bhkell...@optusnet.com.au</a>> wrote:</p> <blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">> So you were duplicated yesterday? One, quite reasonable, way of regarding our continuing existence from day to day, moment to moment, is that in every instant we die, to be reborn in the next instant.</blockquote> <p><font size="4">Yes, dying yesterday means nothing provided I am reborn today, and dying today means nothing provided I am reborn tomorrow. And by "reborn" I mean something comes into existence tomorrow that remembers being me today. </font></p> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote"><div class="aolmail_gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><font size="4">>> If I know that something tomorrow will remember being John Clark today then I'm content, after all that procedure worked pretty well in conserving what I want conserved during the transition form yesterday to today, so if the same thing happens in the transition from today to tomorrow I should be OK. And if tomorrow more than one thing remembers being John Clark today then that's even better. The more the merrier . </font></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="aolmail_gmail_default"><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">> If you are happy, then fine.</blockquote> <font size="4">How could anybody not be fine with that? What could me surviving into tomorrow mean other than at least one thing tomorrow remembers being me today?</font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"> If more than one thing remembers then even better.</font></span></div><div class="aolmail_gmail_default"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"> </font> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote">> But are your dopplegangers equally happy</blockquote> <p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4">Good for them, I'm pleased. </font> </p> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote"><font size="4">> they no longer exist, after all.....</font></blockquote> <font size="4">I don't know what you mean by that. I John Clark here in Washington exist and have vivid memories of being the Helsinki Man yesterday, but as I understand it John Clark is also in Moscow also exists and also has vivid memories of being the Helsinki man just as I do. What that other John Clark has done in Moscow after he got to that city I have no idea but I wish him well and I'm sure he feels the same way about me.</font> <font size="4"> </font> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote"> Mark Lawrence, Prince of Thorns (The Broken Empire #1): </blockquote><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><i>"I think maybe we die every day. Maybe we're born new each dawn, a little changed, a little further on our own road. When enough days stand between you and the person you were, you're strangers. Maybe that's what growing up is. Maybe I have grown up."</i></blockquote> <font size="4">I pretty much agree with that. </font> <font size="4"> </font> <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote">> Saibal Mitra: </blockquote><blockquote class="aolmail_gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="aolmail_gmail_quote"><i>"The person I was when I was 3 years old is dead. He died because too much new information was added to his brain."</i></blockquote> <font size="4">I have a few vague memories when I was 3 but none when I was 2 so in a sense the 2 year old John Clark is dead, however he never exactly died; I define dying as having a last thought and the 2 year old John Clark never have that.</font> <font size="4"> </font> <font size="4"> John K Clark </font> <p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> -- </p> <p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </p> <p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </p></div><div class="aolmail_gmail_extra"> </div></div> <p></p> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to <a target="_blank" href="mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com";>everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com</a>. 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