On Friday, 19 April 2019 13:27:58 UTC+3, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 18 Apr 2019, at 12:17, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
> everyth...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>  recursion.
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> That's precisely what self-reference is not. And I specifically point this 
in the book. 


> The universal machine (number, combinator, or physical) knows that they 
> have a soul (immaterial, immortal, and responsible for the illusion of the 
> physical universe and its lawfulness).
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> You cannot simulate self-reference just by playing around with atoms. 
> Self-reference just is.
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> Not OK. You can simulate the self-reference with atoms, and that enacts 
> the experience of the first person, which is distributed on the whole 
> arithmetic, and can be shown to be non formalisable, nor even definable.
>

It seems to me that you just say random things without any logic, probably 
because they sound "profound" to you.

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