On 5/2/2019 12:58 AM, cloudver...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 7:10:03 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 5/1/2019 4:24 PM, cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote:
> I would say that one could have a Jupiter planet-sized network of
> Intel® Core™ processors + whatever distributed program running
on it,
> and it will not be conscious.
Based on what? Human hubris?
Brent
A racist is [via Google definition] "aperson who shows or feels
discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who
believes that a particular race is superior to another".
I'm not that, but I do think that different types of matter have
different capabilities (as materials scientists do).
Is there a type that is different from quarks and leptons?
I am a materialist.
Except you imbue matter with properties that are undetectable. You
place emphasis on matter having experience, but that seems like a
half-measure to me. Why not go all the way and say that it has
libertarian free will too.
Brent
On the other hand, the /new materialists/ [
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/mirroring-and-mattering-science-politics-and-the-new-feminist-materialism/ ]
reconceptualize “the terms of social theory, such that the social is
seen as a part of, rather than distinct from, the natural, an
undertaking that requires a rethinking of the natural too.” In this
newly monist view, the proper response to the threat of biological
determinism — the claim that biology is destiny or that our fate lies
in our genes — is not to reject the natural sciences and assert the
primacy of the social, nor indeed to treat the world as text, but
rather to grasp the inseparability of the “bio” and the “social,” as
captured in the word “biosocial.” In place of a linguistic process of
representing the world, the new materialism proposes “mattering” as
the generative process through which matter comes into being.
*Material stuff — bodies, tools, objects — are understood as imbued
with vitality and dynamic force. *
This is a philosophical claim, but one that entails a political
sensibility. And while materialism is a venerable school of thought,
this conception of “mattering” seems, as I have suggested, very much
of the moment.
@philipthrift
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