On Sunday, August 25, 2019, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 11:03 PM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>> On 25 Aug 2019, at 14:01, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 9:39 PM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Aug 2019, at 10:10, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The mathematical structure might describe these things, but descriptions
>>> are not the things they describe.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you confuse the mathematical structure, and the theory
>>> describing that mathematical structure. Those are very different things.
>>>
>>
>> I think that is exactly the mistake that you make all the time.
>>
>>
>> Where? I don’t remind you ever show this.
>>
>
> I have said it many times. A mathematical structure is an abstract human
> construct. Such a structure might go some way towards describing physical
> reality, but the map is not the territory.
>


Bruno is talking about the territory and I think you are confusing it with
Bruno talking about the map.  To be clear, axioms in math are just theories
to explain the mathematical reality, in the same sense as physical theories
do.  Since you presume there is no mathematical reality all you can imagine
are maps.

Jason

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