China does world-class development work, but uses spies to steal original ideas 
from outside of China, the R as in research. Any business that sells in China, 
turns over its intellectual property to Chinese companies which turn over the 
data to the Communist Party. China has armed up with weapons so as to ensure 
(hypersonics) eliminate US submarines so there no retaliatory strikes, after a 
first strike, on the US. Thus, the Communist Party wants the US physically 
eliminated, even though we are their biggest customer. I guess some things are 
more important than money, if you hate someone enough. I believe Orange Man 
will fail with Xi, just as Obama in 2012 failed with Putin. On the physics, of 
which one believes in a strong observer, or a weak, unconscious one, it almost 
becomes pedantic, unless one gains a beneficial insight, or can in some 
fashion, 'go there.' On planet earth concerning intellectual or physical 
ascendancy...
https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2019/09/18/russias_hypersonic_nukes_exploit_us_vulnerability_114750.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/magazine/hypersonic-missiles.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/china-and-russia-have-set-a-nuclear-collision-course-with-the-united-states

Ok, Back to the Philosophy of Science.....



-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Crowell <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2019 1:51 pm
Subject: Re: Is idealism fundamentally unthinkable ?

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 3:36:13 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Then physics before the human appeared cannot make sense. How could the 
Big-Bang even exists, if two electrons cannot exist without humans?

Bruno


If this is where the western intellectual trajectory is taking us then it is 
small wonder that China is becoming the dominant actor in science, technology 
and ultimately the rest of the world.
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