> On 21 Dec 2020, at 17:25, Lawrence Crowell <goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Bell's theorem and the Kochen-Specker theorem are indications of an > irreducible randomness to measurement outcomes in QM.
That is clear for me when you assume one and only one physical universe, or one measurement outcome. It is less clear if we assume 0 physical universe (like we have to if we want biologie and Darwin to keep their explanation power, as they use mechanism and this is hard to sustain with any (weak) form of materialism. Keep in mind that Mechanism introduce already an irreducible randomness in self- measurement in the self-duplication/multiplication (in arithmetic, or anywhere). Normally, the quantum weirdness is simply the canonical weirdness met by all universal numbers in arithmetic, and due to its intrinsic lack of ability to determine which computation run her, among the infinities of computation in any “universal-Turing system”. Bell’s theorem and Kochen-Specker theorem are part of the confirmation that the quantum MWI is just the arithmetical multi-computations reality, structured by the modes of self-reference of the universal machine (an arithmetical concept). This per se does not solve the mind-body problem, but is the beginning of its formulation. The solution is in the consequence of the (counter-intuitive) theory of machine self-references (which applies also to some “gods” (non Turing emulable entity) which exist also in the arithmetical reality (called “oracle” by Turing). Some evidences for some type of hidden variable in the physical reality would give some evidence that Mechanism is false, but I have not yet seen such evidences. Bruno > > LC > > On Thursday, December 17, 2020 at 12:50:58 PM UTC-6 agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > Can it be directly inferred from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle? TIA, AG > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3dca72aa-febd-4b20-afee-e43a7fcee319n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/3dca72aa-febd-4b20-afee-e43a7fcee319n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/104534D7-4A45-42FF-9888-FB37A090129F%40ulb.ac.be.