@Brent. Who do you think you are for people to care about your replies ?
=)))))))))))))))) Such arrogance! =))
On Thursday 11 July 2024 at 07:14:08 UTC+3 Brent Meeker wrote:
> I hope you don't care if people also ignore your rude and arrogant posts.
>
> Brent
>
>
> On 7/9/2024 11:36 AM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote:
>
> @Quentin. Trololol. Do you think I care if you read my papers or not ?
> =)))))))))))))))) Is not my problem that you want to remain ignorant. I did
> my part in providing knowledge to people. Now is people job if they want to
> find the truth or not. Stop thinking yourself important.
>
> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 20:34:19 UTC+3 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
>
>> What a tool you are... and you're seriously expecting people to read your
>> paper ? Learn humility and come back.
>>
>> Le mar. 9 juil. 2024, 19:16, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> @Jason. Omggg... I'm a genius. I studied everything. Computer science,
>>> physics, philosophy, economy, sociology, biology, you name it, lol.
>>> I use self-reference in the proper way. The reason people are confused
>>> is because of their own low IQ that even confuses them when it comes to
>>> tying their own shoes.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 19:27:15 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 11:50 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
>>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Jason. Recursion is not self-reference. If you would have read my
>>>>> paper you would have seen that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You alluded to a familiarity with computer programming. Have you
>>>> studied computer science?
>>>>
>>>> Is the classical way the Fibonacci sequence is defined not an example
>>>> of self-reference as you use the term? If it's not, then you are using
>>>> "self-reference" in a very non-standard that is sure to confuse a lot of
>>>> people, especially computer scientists.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 14:42:42 UTC+3 Jason Resch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
>>>>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic
>>>>>>> instructions such as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if (color == white) {
>>>>>>> print ("Is day");
>>>>>>> } else {
>>>>>>> print ("Is night");
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was an objection first made by Ada Lovelace. But Turing showed
>>>>>> that even deterministic processes can often surprise us, and behave in
>>>>>> ways
>>>>>> that aren't predictable (without running the computation until it
>>>>>> finishes). E.g., does a machine halt or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I give you the program, can you tell me from looking at it what it
>>>>>> will do? You might think you can, but consider if I gave you a program
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> looked for a counterexample to Goldbach's conjecture. If and when it
>>>>>> finds
>>>>>> it, the program prints it and then halts. Does the machine given this
>>>>>> program halt or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You might have an opinion, but if you can't prove it, then you really
>>>>>> don't know. So far no one has been able to prove it one way or the other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no reason involved. Just blindly following instructions. Do
>>>>>>> people that believe in the AI believe that computers are magical
>>>>>>> entities
>>>>>>> where fairies live and they sprout rainbows ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Turing machine and (computability generally) is built on the
>>>>>> notion of recursion. I.e. self-reference. If we are conscious due to
>>>>>> self-reference, then why shouldn't recursive computer programs be
>>>>>> conscious
>>>>>> too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 06:19:30 UTC+3 Terren Suydam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How has your understanding of computer programming helped you avoid
>>>>>>>> being victimized by AI hype?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:19 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
>>>>>>>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> People that are victims of the AI hype neither understand computer
>>>>>>>>> programming nor consciousness.
>>>>>>>>>
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