On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 4:04 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
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> lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic instructions
> such as
>
> if (color == white) {
> print ("Is day");
> } else {
> print ("Is night");
> }
>
This was an objection first made by Ada Lovelace. But Turing showed that
even deterministic processes can often surprise us, and behave in ways that
aren't predictable (without running the computation until it finishes).
E.g., does a machine halt or not?
If I give you the program, can you tell me from looking at it what it will
do? You might think you can, but consider if I gave you a program that
looked for a counterexample to Goldbach's conjecture. If and when it finds
it, the program prints it and then halts. Does the machine given this
program halt or not?
You might have an opinion, but if you can't prove it, then you really don't
know. So far no one has been able to prove it one way or the other.
> There is no reason involved. Just blindly following instructions. Do
> people that believe in the AI believe that computers are magical entities
> where fairies live and they sprout rainbows ?
>
The Turing machine and (computability generally) is built on the notion of
recursion. I.e. self-reference. If we are conscious due to self-reference,
then why shouldn't recursive computer programs be conscious too?
Jason
> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 06:19:30 UTC+3 Terren Suydam wrote:
>
>> How has your understanding of computer programming helped you avoid being
>> victimized by AI hype?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 5:19 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
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>>> People that are victims of the AI hype neither understand computer
>>> programming nor consciousness.
>>>
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