On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 5:28:34 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:57 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: *>It's just the Schroedinger equation plus the rule that once your world is orthogonal to others, they vanish.* *>> What a disappointment! By adding that one unnecessary rule you've implicitly added an astronomical number, and possibly an infinite number, of assumptions; * *> It's not an assumption. It's a consistently observed fact, * *If Quantum Mechanics is correct, and I think it's a pretty damn good assumption that it is, then in the Schrodinger cat experiment you've got a superposition of 2 quantum states, { [ ( a live cat) + (the environment with a live cat in it) + (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a live cat) ] + [ ( a dead live cat) + (the environment with a dead cat in it) + (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a dead cat)] }. Thus Brent Meeker#1 would say it is an observable fact that the cat is alive and Brent Meeker#2 would say it is an observable fact that the cat is not alive.* *You talk total nonsense. Before the box is opened, nothing is observed. Superpositions are never observed. Many you don't know anything about QM. Yes, that must be it. AG * *> I have never presented or defended the view that a person or other being has to look at something to split worlds.* *If you're not satisfied with "Shut Up And Calculate" and you don't use the Many Worlds argument then explain to me how the Elitzur–Vaidman bomb tester could possibly work. * *Elitzur–Vaidman bomb tester* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester> *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* ezb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2cbc5840-d018-4497-a19f-66d0ad8dbfffn%40googlegroups.com.
