On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:04 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
wrote:

*>> If Quantum Mechanics is correct, and I think it's a pretty damn good
> assumption that it is, then in the Schrodinger cat experiment you've got a
> superposition of 2 quantum states,  { [ ( a live cat) + (the environment
> with a live cat in it) + (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a
> live cat) ]   +   [ ( a dead live cat) + (the environment with a dead cat
> in it) + (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a dead cat)] }. Thus
> Brent Meeker#1 would say it is an observable fact that the cat is alive and
> Brent Meeker#2 would say it is an observable fact that the cat is not
> alive.*
>
>

*>* *Before the box is opened, nothing is observed.*
>

*Before the box is opened Brent Meeker#1 and Brent Meeker#2 are identical
because neither of them knows if they are in the alive cat world or the
dead cat world. It's only after they look in the box do they become
different. *


> *> Superpositions are never observed.*
>

*True, and neither Brent Meeker#1 nor Brent Meeker#2 observes any sort of
superposition. And the Shut Up And Calculate people don't even try to
understand it but if you're not one of them then try to explain how in the
world the Elitzur–Vaidman bomb tester
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester> * *could
possibly work without using the Many Worlds idea.*

*  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
qmc


>

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