On 1/10/2025 10:23 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 10:04 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

        *>> If Quantum Mechanics is correct, and I think it's a pretty
        damn good assumption that it is, then in the Schrodinger cat
        experiment you've got a superposition of 2 quantum states,  {
        [ ( a live cat) + (the environment with a live cat in it) +
        (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a live cat) ]   +
          [ ( a dead live cat) + (the environment with a dead cat in
        it) + (Brent Meeker in that environment looking at a dead
        cat)] }. Thus Brent Meeker#1 would say it is an observable
        fact that the cat is alive and Brent Meeker#2 would say it is
        an observable fact that the cat is not alive.*

    *>*///Before the box is opened, nothing is observed./


*Before the box is opened Brent Meeker#1 and Brent Meeker#2 are identical because neither of them knows if they are in the alive cat world or the dead cat world.It's only after they look in the box do they become different. *
So the world doesn't split till somebody observes it??  I think you need to revisit Everett. Instead of a cat consider a clock that is stopped by the radioactive decay.

    /> Superpositions are never observed./


*True, and neither Brent Meeker#1 nor Brent Meeker#2 observes any sort of superposition. And the Shut Up And Calculate people don't even try to understand it but if you're not one of them then try to explain how in the world the Elitzur–Vaidman bomb tester<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elitzur%E2%80%93Vaidman_bomb_tester> **could possibly work without using the Many Worlds idea.*
I did already. Can you explain how it works?

Brent*
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