On 3/15/2025 6:05 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 8:04 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

        *>> The Turing Test is an imperfect tool but it's all we've
        got to work with; it can prove that something is intelligent *


    */> The Turing test can establish if something is
    indistinguishable from being human, and hence intelligent, but not
    if it's conscious. AG/*


*Unless consciousness is the inevitable byproduct of intelligence,or to put it another way, unless consciousness is an evolutionary spandrel.*

I think there are degrees and kinds of consciousness.  My dog is certainly conscious, she knows what's going on.  But without language and similar symbolic processing I don't think human level consciousness is possible.

Brent*
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