Brain! Brain! Brain! AI! AI! AI! So exciteeeed!!! On Monday, 10 March 2025 at 08:28:01 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote:
> On Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 12:17:21 PM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 9:42 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *>> Thanks to very recent developments I now know of two ways > consciousness can come to exist:* > *1) Through random mutation and natural selection, which produces > intelligence, which produces consciousness, although that process is very > slow.* > > *2) Consciousness can also be achieved through the administrations of > computer scientists, but unlike Evolution this way is exponentially fast. * > > > > *> What's been done is to create a computer (HW and SW)* > > > *IHA.* > > > *You claim to be conscious but can't figure out that HW and SW refer to > HardWare and SoftWare? AG * > > > > *> which can mimic human speech and arguments so well, that you can't > distinguish it from entities you believe are conscious* > > > *Yes, but you are also "mimicking" human speech, you mimicked how to do it > by watching and listening to adults when you were a child.* > > *> what's called AI, passes the Turing Test. AG* > > > *Yep, but I might add that modern AI's can pass the Turing Test with a > considerably higher score than you can, so if they are not conscious then I > would have to conclude that you are not either. ** I really wish you > would answer a question that I posed in my last post: * > > *Is it really of fundamental cosmic importance that one of you has a brain > that is wet and squishy while the other has a brain that is dry and hard? * > > > *Is this the question you want me to answer? If so, without a definition > of consciousness, I see no basis for claiming either is conscious. Without > a definition, it's impossible to say what we're talking about. Why don't > you ask your favorite AI what the White Light is, and what the Clear Light > of the Void is? Or what consciousness is? Or if it thinks it's conscious? > AG* > > > *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/32cdb324-f457-4c12-b00b-acf17f11a4ebn%40googlegroups.com.
