Consciousness is the substance upon which evolution acts in the first place.
On Saturday, 15 March 2025 at 16:09:35 UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 3/15/2025 6:05 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 8:04 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: > > *>> The Turing Test is an imperfect tool but it's all we've got to work >> with; it can prove that something is intelligent * >> >> >> *> The Turing test can establish if something is indistinguishable from >> being human, and hence intelligent, but not if it's conscious. AG* >> > > *Unless consciousness is the inevitable byproduct of intelligence, or to > put it another way, unless consciousness is an evolutionary spandrel.* > > > I think there are degrees and kinds of consciousness. My dog is certainly > conscious, she knows what's going on. But without language and similar > symbolic processing I don't think human level consciousness is possible. > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d939c359-50a9-4fe2-9c22-41528df5c2aen%40googlegroups.com.

