I believe the question here was specifically whether to allow internal POP
clients to pull their mail (personal, presumably) from outside sources.  To
that, I would agree it is a very poor idea to allow that.

As to whether to allow POP usage from outside, I would also agree that
allowing it is a poor idea, but there are ways to make it not so poor.  Even
though it is primative, POP is still a protocol that is necessary for
clients running on non-Windows platforms.  You can configure Exchange 2000
to support only POP with SSL, somewhat reducing the vulnerability, or,
better yet, allow it only through a VPN.  Still, I would be encouraging such
users to try to use IMAP instead, but it is not without its risks as well.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?


Mmmm.  Man hours.   

Presumably since you are posting to an Exchange list, you are running
Exchange.  If you just want a POP server you have wasted your money.  

If remote access is an issue, set up OWA.  If virusesiises are an issue, run
AV software on your Exchange boxes.  

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua R. Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I agree with you from a Security Standpoint that POP has
> certain risks,
> but maybe a better topic for management is the additional headache POP
> is from a support standpoint..   Imagine if you will a 
> Marketing person
> gets a new machine at home, this person sets up outlook to 
> download via
> POP3, instead of choosing to leave the messages on the server they opt
> to download everything and remove (could be a simple mistake) however
> when they come into work the next day all their email is gone. Now you
> could restore from backup which = man-hours or you could have the guy
> bring in his machine and copy all the data from it which = man hours.
> However if you are running Exchange this Marketing guy could have
> accessed via OWA or VPN, or even if you were not using Exchange VPN or
> some 3rd Party web tool..
> 
> 
> In other words Pop = Bad
> 
> 
> Joshua
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Joshua Morgan
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: POP = Bad? -- SMTP = Good?
> 
> 
> List,
> 
> This might be more appropriate for a firewall/security list but it 
> involves email and I don't belong to one of those yet so I'll post my 
> question here.  I'm curious as to how many of your companies allow 
> internal clients to access POP mail externally.  The reason I'm asking 
> is because I see POP mail as security risk.  Let me explain.  Our 
> firewall strips all but a few attachments from our incoming SMTP 
> email. With POP however attachments cannot be striped leaving a hole 
> for new virus that aren't detectable yet by our virus software.  I'm 
> going to try to talk management into letting me block POP.  Is
> blocking incoming
> POP something other company do?  Is there some other way to secure
> incoming POP mail?
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
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