Greg, you wrote: "First, I never said I was a "master logician". This is simply another in a long line of dozens of mischaracterizations of my posts that proves the fact that you either cannot read, cannot comprehend what you read, choose to embellish what you read or assume things about what you read."
"So you are going to quibble with things that "I" said? You people are so whacked out that it is utterly incomprehensible. So where were you when I was called a "liar" or a "wife beater" or "stupid" or "idiot" or that I "starve children". All of that is OK in your whacky bizarro world, but explaining to someone that if you start a fight (in email for Christ's sake) that I will finish that fight. Oh that is TERRIBLE! How could you SAY such a thing. Never mind the "liar", "stupid", "idiot" stuff, THAT, sir, is uncalled for." "People mis-characterize and read things into my posts that are not there." "Personal attacks are generally the clearest sign that someone has lost an argument and has nothing better to say. So now I am a wife beater, a liar, I starve children and I get beat up a lot. I keep learning things about myself that I never knew before, I love this list." "And, I just gotta say...a starving child reference?!?!?! I mean...what? So now I'm taking food out of the mouths of children because I believe that accepting a vendor honorarium is unethical? I...I...I literally don't even know what to say to something that incredibly inane. That one takes the cake." The original question I posed to you was: "Oh - are you an MCSE? Would having those initials behind your name enhance your credibility, marketability, business ventures and/or profits? Would obtaining such a title be unethical and wrong? If having those credentials put food in your children's mouths and a roof over their heads, would your attitude change any?" Did I state you starved children? Speaking of mischaracterizations, choosing to embellish, assuming things about what you read and not comprehending.... I asked you if having a specific vendor-based credential put food in to YOUR children's mouths, would your attitude change? You can mischaracterize, embellish, whatever to suit your needs. You should be absolutely exhausted by now from all the running in circles you do. Stick to your guns and stay stuck or as someone else so eloquently stated, STFU. Actually, you remind me a singing and dancing Charles Durning from the "Best Little Wh0rehouse in Texas". Ooooo - I love to dance a little sidestep...... You're shucking and jiving so much trying to win your arguments you're doing the same things you accuse others of which results in serious damage to any credibility you may have had. I originally gave you credit for sticking to your beliefs but now must retract that statement. Doctors screw up and someone dies. Lawyers screw up and someone goes to prison or is freed to commit further crimes [you write the final chapter on this one]. Any person involved with the medical, dental, physical, psychological arenas [and their assistants, etc] screw up and a life is on the line. That's the reason for federal and/or congressional intervention along with written laws and ethics - to guide behavior so as to NOT put a life in jeopardy. You know what happens when I screw up? Pamela the personal assistant doesn't get her e-mail from Aunt Betty about what pie to bake for their holiday dinner. Just have Aunt Betty send her recipe right after I get the mail server running again..... Professionalism, honesty, competence, experience and skill count and go a long way in this business. Being professional means policing your own, being proficient, earning respect and being an example for others to emulate and from there you can create the infrastructure of ethics. You'd better hit the silk now because your plane has way too many holes in it to fly and the hole you're landing yourself in apparently has no room for the traits I just mentioned.. Our profession hasn't been around long enough to begin this debate and if you think otherwise, then go ahead and label yourself "ahead of your time" - your ego can handle it. There's entirely too much cutthroat activity in this business to sit at one table and hammer this all out so for this generation at least, it's live and let live. Let it go, man. Barry J. Horner NT Server/Exchange/WWW Administrator Central Community College - Grand Island, NE (V) 308.398.7361 (F) 308.398.7399 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]