Such details....

<me> Son, what did you do at school today
<son> nothing, what's for dinner
<me> food
<son> seriously, what are we having
<me> seriously, what did you do at school today
<son finally gives some details.>

Note : I've been in bed with the Windows Mobile, and Mobile Device Manager 
teams for the past few months doing "stuff" I'm going to feed most of the 
positive / negative comments in this thread back to those teams one way or 
another. [1]

[1] Ya'll are making me sounds more smarter and informed

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





Its just easier.  Its not bad on a WM device at all, just better on a BB.

From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





Why must you say email is better on the BB?

My wife has the 6800, loves it. ( I wish I would have waited for it to come out 
and get it instead of my Samsung i780) My son got her old 6700, and keeps 
trying to scheme ways to steal the 6800.

~Kevinm WLKMMAS
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
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Definetly check out the new VX6800.  I have a few friends who picked one up and 
its hands down better than the 6700.   I am very tempted to drop my BB and go 
back to WM.  Miss the touchscreen and HTML Email.

I will say that the email functionality of the BB is much better than the WM.

Greg
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





I definitely will.  So, as I understand it, the recommended devices are:

WM - Treo 700wx
BB - Curve (if available), and 8830 if the Curve is not available.

I've spoken with my manager, and she agrees with me that we should pursue 
getting one of each device, for me to trial, so I may end up walking around 
with 3 phones on my belt soon...lol.

Joe Heaton

From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion







Cook - well, there ya go Joe - test out your rep ;)

________________________________
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:43 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





I saw that too, but we have a couple here...
On Dec 27, 2007 10:45 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:







Really? - even the blackberry.com<http://blackberry.com/> site does not show a 
Verizon Curve.



________________________________

From: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
 
[mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:15 AM

To: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





Talk to your Verizon rep, I don't see them listed but I know they have them 
because we have users who have them...

On Dec 27, 2007 10:11 AM, 
<exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
 wrote:







Well, unfortunately, the Curve is not listed on Verizon's website for BB 
devices.



Joe Heaton



From: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
 [mailto: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:10 AM

To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





You're missing the curve off of your list which has a full qwerty keyboard.  
The 8830 would be my other choice.  I don't like the pearl because it's not 
full qwerty...

On Dec 27, 2007 10:06 AM, 
<exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
 wrote:







Any BB model that people would recommend over others?  Our provider lists the 
following on their site:



7130e

Pearl 8130

8703e

8830 World Edition



Thanks,



Joe Heaton



From: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
 [mailto: 
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>]
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:34 AM

To: exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com 
<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>

Subject: Re: EAS vs. BB - new thread for less confusion





1. Yes
2. Yes, excedt BB doesn't do so hot on PDF's yet

3. BB User proof, WM not so much











On Dec 27, 2007 9:27 AM, 
<exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
 wrote:







I've started a new thread, because my manager is now asking me to create a 
proposal document for our Director, in order to recommend the "best" solution.  
I have a few specific questions that may or may not have been covered in the 
last thread.





1)       Does the BB, if I have BES installed in my server room, allow sync of 
contacts/tasks/calendar etc.  Also, just to be fair and complete, does the WM 
device have this capability?

2)      Does the BB have the same ability to open the same types of attachments 
as the WM device?

3)      Are there any other functionalities that one device has over the other, 
from an end-user perspective, that would be something I need to know about?



I'm sorry if the last question is a bit vague, but this is really my first 
endeavor in these waters, and I'd just like to have as many real world 
experiences as possible to draw from to make this decision.  I do understand 
that it's not difficult to support both, but I just need to make sure the 
endusers are going to be satisfied with the chosen solution.



Thanks,



Joe Heaton

AISA

Employment Training Panel

1100 J Street, 4th Floor

Sacramento, CA  95814

(916) 327-5276

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