OK, you know where I live. Still what's the point? Unless my home is in some
nice zip code, why are you going to take the risk that I actually have
something of value? I'll tell you know, except for a truck load of well
loved baby toys and a sofa that's been snotted on, you're burglary attempt
would be a bust.

Or maybe the two large dogs, and alarm system will foil you after the long
drive to my house.

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you are foolish enough to let folks know you won't be at home, and
> someone is of a mind to do this, you're screwed. The reason is, the
> OoO messages are only in response to an email someone sent you. That
> means they already have your name and the company you work for. If
> they don't already have your home address, a minor amount of social
> engineering at your workplace, or even a bit of googling, will reveal
> where you live.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Eric Woodford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > My point was even if you did say "I am traveling to the North Pole for a
> > month". What's to say I'd be able to find your house to sell all your
> > furniture and worldly treasures. Last count, there are at least 9 people
> > with my same name.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Don Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Agreed – not being in the office actually increases the chances of my
> >> being at home – no access to email simply says, don't even try to bother
> me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, on the other hand, if it said something really stupid like, I'll be
> >> out of (town|state|country) for a week, that would be different.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 8:14 AM
> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> Subject: RE: OOOR?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Arrg! This tired old debate. What does not being at work have to do with
> >> not being at home?!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 14 August 2008 18:16
> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> Subject: Re: OOOR?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your OOTO says "I will be out of the office between Monday and Friday
> with
> >> no access to email". That really says "My house will be empty, please
> come
> >> and help yourself".
> >>
> >> Interesting concept, terribly difficult to implement. Unless I know you
> >> personally and have visited your house, finding your specific address,
> >> traveling there (especially being that you're across an ocean from me),
> >> breaking in and then hoping you have something of value worth the entire
> >> endeavor (all before you get back from vacation). That's all assuming
> you
> >> don't put your home address and "keys under the mat" in your signature.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Simon Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> If you do allow OOTO to the Internet then watch your queues. As spam is
> >> spoofed the OOTOs will stack up.
> >>
> >> However the social engineering and personal security issue is very
> >> important.
> >>
> >> Your OOTO says "I will be out of the office between Monday and Friday
> with
> >> no access to email".
> >> That really says "My house will be empty, please come and help
> yourself".
> >>
> >> The way that I usually counter the OOTO to the internet request is quite
> >> simple. How does it look to business partners, either potential or
> current?
> >>
> >> To use the example above, what that could be interpreted to say is "Your
> >> custom is not important enough for me to get someone else to monitor my
> >> mailbox for a week, I will read it when I get back".
> >>
> >> If you do implement OOTO then a template would be the best option. The
> >> template wouldn't give much information away, and would tell the sender
> that
> >> the mailbox is being monitored. Someone would then need to monitor the
> >> mailbox, even if it is just to ping the sender back to say that the
> person
> >> was away, is it urgent or can it wait.
> >>
> >> Simon.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Simon Butler
> >> MVP: Exchange, MCSE
> >> Amset IT Solutions Ltd.
> >>
> >> e: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> w: www.amset.co.uk
> >> w: www.amset.info
> >>
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> >> http://CertificatesForExchange.com/ for certificates from just $23.99.
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 11 August 2008 20:29
> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >>
> >> Subject: RE: OOOR?
> >>
> >> You probably got several in response to that post.
> >>
> >> Spammers don't care about OOFs.  They don't nickel and dime addresses.
> >>
> >> There is sometimes juicy social engineering information within the OOF
> >> though.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jim Dandy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:08 AM
> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> >> Subject: OOOR?
> >>
> >> I'm curious if others are allowing out of office replies to the
> internet?
> >> I've heard it's a bad idea because spammers use it to harvest valid
> >> addresses.  Thanks for your comments.
> >>
> >> Curt
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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