Its that "$" sign thats the issue in the UK! The £/$ ratio seems to fluctuate 
between almost 1 to 1 to nearly 2 - 1...
 
Dave Wade
Business Services I.C.T.
0161 474 5456
 


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        From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] 
        Sent: 21 August 2010 18:00
        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this 
week.
        
        

        I'm not sure it's outrageous tbh, considering with Exchange you have a 
CAL cost, an Antispam cost, an antivirus cost and (the expensive part) the 
costs of having someone take care of it - it's the last part that I expect is 
the issue for a lot of small businesses.

         

        From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] 
        Sent: 21 August 2010 17:57
        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this 
week.

         

        Wow that's pretty steep for the service they provide.......  $50 a 
seat, really????

         

        From: stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org 
[mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Barr
        Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:32 AM
        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this 
week.

         

        Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are 
no other costs.  For the $50 here's a short list of what you get:

        *       Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com 
        *       SSL 
        *       AntiSpam, AntiVirus 
        *       Postini 
        *       25GB of storage per email address

         

         

        On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade <dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk> 
wrote:

        Paul,

         

        I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about 
25 staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to Windows/2008r2 and  
Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he wasn't out sourcing to Google 
apps or some thing of that ilk he said when costed over 4 years it looked very 
expensive, especially given the uncertainty in pricing given we work in 
Sterling...

         

        Dave Wade

        0161 474 5456

         

        
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        From: Paul Hutchings
        Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 17:13 

        
        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this 
week.

         

        I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
        different things and suit different needs.
         
        Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
        and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
        even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
        Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
        need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.
         
        On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
        have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
        connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
        easy a decision.
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] 
        Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
        To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
        week.
         
        Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
        feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
        level of the users.
         
        It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
        companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
         
        Jason
         
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
        > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
        > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
        > Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
        this
        > week.
        > 
        > Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
        > addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
        > 
        > definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
        thousands
        > per year.
        > 
        > 
        > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull
        <dun...@e-simple.co.nz>
        > wrote:
        > 
        > 
        >       There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but
        > various upsides
        > 
        >       One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g.
        > for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of
        > those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses
        > 
        >       What about Microsoft Live
        > 
        >       Cheers Duncan
        > 
        >       On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote:
        > 
        > 
        >              Super easy. Customers love it.
        > 
        > 
         
         
         
         
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