On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Fireman71 wrote:
> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 18:16:53 -0400
> From: Fireman71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake's Arrogance
>
> Hmmm, i run root all the time and will continue to do so. couple of reasons.
> I got tired of typing su and sudo about every 3rd command. I got tired of not
> being able to cd into some of my directories.
>
There is a good point to that, but you can just make your regular user
have the permissions of root by putting him in the proper groups in
/etc/group. But I still shun away from that for purposes of protection.
> When i make a mistake as root and wipe out half my file system, so what, its no
> big deal to me. I am not NASA or the pentagon. I am a, in my opinion, typical
> homeuser. There is nothing installed on my system that would cause the world to
> end if it gets erased or deleted. It would only be me spending my time
> reinstalling everything. Big deal. Now yes i can see this when you get into
> systems that have several users, or at places such as banks, universities,
> governments, etc. But for the typical home user i dont see that it is that big a
> deal to run root so long as they arent going to go crying and whining that they
> erased half their files. If they are willing to accept that chance on their own
> machines i say get off their back and let them.
>
Hmm.. I never met anyone that carefree about their machine.
> As for the IRC stuff, I pulled up xchat in kde and started it up. It gave me
> two warnings. One when it started saying i shouldnt irc as root and then
> another when i tried to connect with root as my screen name. I changed my
> screenname and clicked connect. Logged in just fine. Got the channel list,
> joined a few rooms, etc.
>
There are ways to get around just about anything...
> So apparently the only thing is that you cant use root as your screenname. At
> least that is what happened in my case. and btw, i logged onto Undernet
> US, irc.dal.net, irc.gimp.net, and irc.foxchat.net. I didnt have any
> problems what so ever. Just had to change my screenname from root and it
> looked like the two warnings were originating from the program xchat and
> not from the servers.
In general, I would recommend that you just chgrp the directories that you
need to cd in often to the gid of your normal user, and give the proper
permissions, and change the permission of root stuff you use often. At
least that makes you a poweruser, and not god.
>
> Ian K. Harrell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > > > Are you folks who are complaining running as _root_?
> > > >
> > > > This is something not to be done, for many reasons, including the fact
> > > that you
> > > > get kicked from most IRC servers.
> > > >
> > >
> > Well, talk to the folks out on irc or try to run irc as root and see what
> > happens. Most servers out there will log you off with a message, and not
> > always a nice one.
> >
> > "Don't irc as root"
> >
> > was about the most polite I got.
> >
> > Anyway, nothing is prevented, just made a little harder to do, so that you
> > remember you are in root. How do you think I stumbled across the server
> > behavior? I appreciate the reminder so I don't endanger myself quite so much.
>
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Regards,
Ellick Chan
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Jul 21
