At 07:50 PM 8/14/00 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote:
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>> Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is
>> suposto be easy for users?
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>It's the unix tradition :)
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>> 
>> Anyone else seen this joke of a program?
>>
>Yes, and I use it almost daily
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>> With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hour trying to get it give
>> you help, then scroll all the way to the bottom of a super long
>> whoopy-do list of usless keyboard commands that you will forget a day
>> after you use them. Please get rid of it!
>>
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>It's a bit strange at first, but when you use it a lot, it is very
>logically designed.
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>> thinking? Do they live on this planet? Why does Mandrake support this?
>> Trash it!
>>
>Can't, vi should be a minimal part of every Linux distro, it is standard
>on any Unix system.
> 
>> I don't know who thinks this is some great thing, WOW! It has zillions
>> of features! It's not 1982 anymore, we have word processors that have a
>> better human interface than terminals did, get a life geeks! (directed
>> at the guys who wrote and keep updating "vi" and "vim")
>>
>It's the only editor that behaves right on weird terminals such as the
>crappy Micro$oft telnet.
> 
>> Why not make the default editor a nice simple one, like maybe pico,
>> where the commands are shown. I can't see anyone using a command line
>> editor for much else than a few simple changes, there are better simple
>> editors in KDE and such. Damn that really pissed me off, and on top of
>> that you guys changed from "vi" (same stupid geeky crap) to "vim" (worse
>> geeky crap) in 7.1 did someone request this? I want to know who!
>> 
>That may be ok for beginners, but a hard core sys admin wants vi.
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>> Sorry for the bandwith waste, had to get this off my chest. Anyone else
>> feel like I do about this?
>> 
>This post is asking for a flame when put on expert groups, but I see the
>purpose of an easier editor for beginners. However, Mandrake has a large
>audience to satisfy, including hard core UNIX people. Vi has established
>itself as the standard editor, and it is not easily going to be displaced.
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>-- 
>Regards,
>
>Ellick Chan
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>Aug 14
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