On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote: > Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is > suposto be easy for users? > > Anyone else seen this joke of a program? > > With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hour trying to get it give > you help, then scroll all the way to the bottom of a super long > whoopy-do list of usless keyboard commands that you will forget a day > after you use them. Please get rid of it! > > Try ":qw" to get out and save what you just did WTF is that? Did a human > design this? That is if you figure out how to get into "insert" mode and > out of it again. GET RID OF THIS! TRASH IT! Ban it from the Net! > > Couldn't use "X" or "E" for exit or maybe cntl-X or Z, no - had to be > big geeks and do it some STUPID way. What the hell were these guys > thinking? Do they live on this planet? Why does Mandrake support this? > Trash it! > > Yea, I am pissed. All I wanted to do is set up my cron file ("crontab > -e") and that brings up the "default" editor. Searching all over to find > where the "default" editor is set up, couldn't find it. Another waste of > time. > > I don't know who thinks this is some great thing, WOW! It has zillions > of features! It's not 1982 anymore, we have word processors that have a > better human interface than terminals did, get a life geeks! (directed > at the guys who wrote and keep updating "vi" and "vim") > > Why not make the default editor a nice simple one, like maybe pico, > where the commands are shown. I can't see anyone using a command line > editor for much else than a few simple changes, there are better simple > editors in KDE and such. Damn that really pissed me off, and on top of > that you guys changed from "vi" (same stupid geeky crap) to "vim" (worse > geeky crap) in 7.1 did someone request this? I want to know who! > > Figure if someone is a big enough geek to want vim, let them spend their > life away trying to figure it out (and how to change the default editor > to do it). > > Thanks for the soapbox, I had my say (please forward this to whoever > makes these program installation choices, if he's not a big geek that > is). > > Sorry for the bandwith waste, had to get this off my chest. Anyone else > feel like I do about this? > > You don't like vi? OK. It's your choice (thrust me, it's not mine! I love this editor!). But if you are too subjective and lazy to realize that it is one of the most powerfull text based editor available, then I think that your default editor should be ... Notepad. -- << There's no place like ~ ! >> Jean-Philippe Gois e-systems - information technology Av Jean Mermoz 22 B-6041 Gosselies, Belgium tel +32 (0) 71 34 94 00