Gerald Williams wrote: > > On Wednesday 25 October 2000 06:51, you wrote: > > > > Thanks. It still also resides in SOME (very few) kde mirrors. > > > > Here's the big question...did you actually install it and get it > > working? > > I did, and it works okay > > > After downloading and installing, all was wrong with the world. First, > > installing it, even with menu-3.0.5-43mdk installed, it segfaults during > > the rpm install on /usr/bin/upgrade-menus. Both qt2 and kde rpms > > segfault > > it. Once it IS all installed, the systqt2installerror.txtem is broken. SOME >things work, > > most > > do not. > > While you do need to update a few, again, a few files, it's not a major > problem. You do NOT need the latest glibc from cooker or the latest gcc2.96 > compiler. FUD does not help. Nuff said. Not fud, it is a factual description of what is happening with my system. As for gcc, you do not NEED to have gcc but then, you will not be doing any compiling if you don't have it. I have a fully updated 7.1 system. I have menu-2.1.5-43mdk installed. That is as high as I can go without upgrading glibc to 2.1.95 (or higher). The problem? OK, installing qt2, the updated one that is required for kde 2.0 results in this: qt2 ################################################## var/tmp/rpm-tmp.59425: line 2: 14222 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus qt2-devel ################################################## var/tmp/rpm-tmp.93066: line 1: 14224 Segmentation fault (core dumped) /usr/bin/update-menus This problem is with menu. If menu-2.1.5-36mdk is not ok, and menu-2.1.5-43mdk is not ok, and menu-2.1.5-43mdk is not ok (I have gone thru each and every one of them trying to fix THIS particular problem), then that leaves one more possibility... menu-4.0. Menu-4.0 REQUIRES glibc-2.1.95. Glibc-2.1.95 WILL screw up your system UNLESS you are already running 7.2beta or Cooker. Neither of these is a logical nor reasonable system to run if you want ANY reliability. They are betas and even alphas for a reason. They are NOT finished products. They DO have problems yet to be worked out. I get the above errors also installing most of the kde 2.0 rpms. The resulting kde setup is buggy as hell. KDM starts up and works...sortof. I can get to kde and gnome, but I cannot get to failsafe. The kde session I get is all but useless. There are icons on the desktop, as per normal, harddrive/mount icons, printer icon, startup folder icon, home icon, trash icon, etc. Not a one of the drive icons works. Clicking on them neither mounts the drive nor opens the kfm file browser to see what is on the mount. Instead, a dialog comes up asking what app I want to use to open it (!?). The kmenu contains some items in it and half of them are non-functional INSPITE of the fact that they are installed. The run item in the kmenu is totally non-functional. Entering ANY command results in no action whatsoever. The panel settings menu item does absolutely nothing. For further evidence, there is the FACT that all but one or two sites have removed the rpms for kde 2.0 from them. That is a stone-cold, undeniable fact. Yesterday, after the announcement of the release, the rpms were EVERYWHERE. Today, they are hard to come by. There is very likely a good reason for that. There is nothing bizarre about my system. It is Mandrake 7.1 with updates brought on via MandrakeUpdate. There are few items built by myself WITHOUT error and installed without error and they work perfectly (the kernel, for instance). There is no FUD here, only objective description of what I see. It matches what some others have indicated themselves in this mailing list. It also matches well with what you can find in newsgroups. Cooker, as of this evening (and last I checked) no longer carries kde-2.0 rpms. It is kde-1.99. Mandrake 7.2beta doesn't carry them. I do not believe I saw 2.0 rpms in rawhide either (and it was there previously). The 2.0 rpms are no longer in MOST of the kde mirror sites. They were in all of them yesterday (I checked a large number of them as I tried to find a site that was available). praedor
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