On Sun, 2002-03-24 at 09:33, Michael Holt wrote:
> Yesterday... Lyvim Xaphir ran for the door shrieking:
> 
> >> Mandrake has released 8.2 with quite a few bugs, you may be one of the 
> >> lucky few who are using a combination of the right hardware / not using a 
> >> lot of the software packages available.  Please, no flames, I'm not 
> >> working for mickeysoft, it's just the facts.  I'm not going to even touch 
> >> 8.2 until I'm sure that enough errata are addressed.
> >
> >OK.  No flames here...but I am kind of fuzzy on one or two points.  One
> >thing is that since you've stated that you haven't loaded 8.2 as yet,
> >where exactly are you getting the information that it was released "with
> >quite a few bugs?"  "Facts".....from where?
> >
> >Got url?
> 
> yeah, www.mandrake.com ; sign up on the cooker list and follow 
> developement ;-)

LM82 is not a development distro, it's a production release; so this
combined with the fact that you arent doing anything with 8.2 at the
moment is telling me that you're "facts" so far are unsubstantiated.

> <snip>
> >This all seperate examples from the last time I checked.  Oh
> >yeah.....I'm monitoring this shit REAL close.
> >
> >So pardon me...but given the fact that there's M$ cloak-and-dagger
> >asassins about plus several billion dollars of bribe money burning a
> >hole in Be-Gay's pocket AND a M$ antitrust DOJ trial in progress, I'm
> >REAL REAL skeptical of ANY bad press on LM82 right now.
> 
> Hey, I really don't care what you do! ; I think supporting Mandrake is a 
> great idea!  Go reserve your powerpak and help the company along - they 
> desparately need it right now!

I'm glad you think support of Mandrake is a good idea; I've already
subscribed.  Have you?

> As far as the tone in that last paragraph of yours though, it reads like a 
> cheap novel!  That type of stuff is always going on to one degree or 
> another; talk like that however, makes it sounds like we're all a bunch of 
> nuts!  This is the "Expert" list and I would think that most people who 
> are subscribed are already linux users (in which case, my "opinion" 
> wouldn't sway them anyway) or they're just really into getting *a LOT* of 
> extra email everyday?!  At any rate, 8.2 does have quite a few bugs

Once again, to what specifically are you referring?  What bugs?  From
where?  You haven't even loaded the distro, yet you make yourself sound
like the penultimate bug expert regarding 8.2.  I've already asked you
to substantiate your claims, and the best you can do is refer me to the
development list.  You can't do any better than that?  I hope you're
more capable at *other* things than you are at substantiating your own
claims.  If not, you've got problems.

> and if 
> you don't mind that, or you're not doing anything mission critical, by all 
> means, install it!  Patches should be available shortly. (or since you're 
> an expert, you can fix 'em yourself)
> 
> Have a great day! 
> Mike
> 
> -- 
> Michael & Tracy Holt
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> ===============================================================<
> Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks -
> Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank...
> 



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