Udo Rader said onto me:  
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 |thats why we have our servers under 3meters of concrete and behind
 |multiple access-control systems ... unless mcguyver comes along and uses
 |his swiss pocketknife to disengage all entrance barriers ;-))

and duck tape......can't forget the duck tape



 |
 |even on enterprise they still have those bad aliens compromizing their
 |systems sometimes ...
 |
 |my point: there is no such thing as computer security that is really
 |secure. only chance: don't use a computer ...
 |
 |udo
 |
 |Am Mon, 2002-06-03 um 23.58 schrieb M@rtin Ign@cio L@nge:
 |> Restoring Bios to defaults its only a matter of opening the Case and in
 |> the mother change a jumper from 1-2 to 2-3... give power to the computer
 |> for 5 seconds and then restoring again to 1-2 the jumper. That's it, in
 |> the mos complicated scenario the thing you have to do is get together
 |> pole + with pole - with a wire. And that's it too.
 |> 
 |> 
 |> 
 |> Martin Ignacio Lange
 |> "Justifica tus limitaciones y ciertamente las tendras"
 |> "Knowledge is Power"
 |> 
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 |> -----Original Message-----
 |> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ken Hawkins
 |> Sent: Lunes, 03 de Junio de 2002 06:08 p.m.
 |> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |> Subject: Re: [expert] A Linux Virus on the loose.
 |> 
 |> darklord wrote:
 |> > 
 |> > On Monday 03 June 2002 11:39 am, you wrote:
 |> > > And this leads to the simple conclusion that if one has physical
 |> access to
 |> > > a computer, then security is largely out the window.  Any clown
 |> could come
 |> > > in and bootup with a rescue disk (addressing the linux aspect) and
 |> do
 |> > > whatever to your drives.  If they had the time, they could also
 |> bring in a
 |> > > set of linux distro disks and reinstall linux their way.
 |> > >
 |> > > The only way to prevent this is to turn off the booting from CD in
 |> bios and
 |> > > password protecting bios, but then, with physical access it is
 |> trivial to
 |> > > kill the bios password (just crack the case and remove the mobo
 |> battery for
 |> > > a minute - bios settings are back to default and accessible without
 |> a
 |> > > password).
 |> 
 |> Unless your mobo flashroms the password; came across this and had to get
 |> tech support to explain that first you must remove the battery, THEN you
 |> must pull a jumper, then you must short out some pins on the BIOS chip
 |> where it is soldered to the board....little paranoid maybe?
 |> 
 |> 
 |> 
 |> > >
 |> > > Thus, I see no harm at all in hearing the means one would use to
 |> create a
 |> > > UID 0 person, append them to passwd and create an appropriately
 |> > > formatted/encrypted shadow password for them in /etc/shadow.
 |> > >
 |> > > praedor
 |> > 
 |> > Hehehehe, I've got mine disabled in BIOS, and my case is hardware
 |> locked. Of
 |> > course, if someone has access to my system, then they've already
 |> gotten into
 |> 
 |> 
 |> 
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