On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 05:17, Steffen Barszus wrote:

> First of all, this is not the right place to discuss this .. but we had many 
> OT-discussions here, why not these...

Wobo had his tit; I had the tat, then offered to take it private.  Looks
like it's public anyway.  Fine.
 
> > I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman.  Especially
> > when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000
> > innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his
> > own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things.
> > You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal.  If he's a madman then
> > everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing
> > ovations that I could count.  He also has had the highest approval
> > rating of any president in US history.  He also has my undivided
> > attention and support.  So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen
> > then?  Or more likely there is something seriously wrong with the German
> > side of the equation.  Ah, yeah, given history, I'd say definitely so.
> >
> 
> That comment really pisses ME off. 

Well, good; that means the construction met design specs.
 
> > It pisses me off when other countries that have no ethics or balls to do
> > the right thing in defense of innocents criticize my country and my
> > president.
> 
> WTF ....... You think war is the only way ? You think US-american have the 
> right for being world-police ? ....

As Chuck pointed out, this is not a US-only deal, since Saddam has
violated UN resolutions set forth after the Gulf war, which was
precipitated by an Iraqi attack on Kuwait.  The issue is the enforcement
of the UN resolutions that have been violated, which will be done by a
coalition of nations that includes the US, with the US being the lead
horse.  I wouldn't need to point all this out if you did'nt have your
head up your a$$.


> >  Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly
> > something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler
> > and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered.  Oh yeah, and
> > the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to
> > it.  Madmen, eh?  yeah, I can certainly talk about some madmen; like the
> > ones that murder Jews.  However I'm starting to understand why the
> > Mandrake lists should minimize political talk; because I am extremely
> > pissed right now.  I suggest that this conversation go elsewhere; like
> > maybe to my personal inbox, where I will be more than glad to finish
> > this dance.
> >
> How much have you understood what war means ? How much are you informed what 
> people here in germany think ? How much are you interested to understand 
> whats going on in minds here ? I would say THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE !

Repeat that mantra while you are entertaining your own reflection; and
when you are done, come back with some facts instead of reguritated
socialist media gibberish.

> We really need a different place for discuss this ... 

Yeah?  You mean like my inbox?
 
> -- 
> Regards
> Steffen
> ____________________


LX


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