On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 14:23, Richard wrote: > On Wednesday 20.August.2003 07:04 pm, Jim C wrote: > > I really would like to see Mandrake get involved with the RULE (Run > > Up-to-date Linux Everywhere ) poject. > > It would also really click with the CLIC project. ;-) [place wince > > here] One of the bigest problems we had with our cluster was with > > trying to use out-of-date hardware with modern software. RULE is a > > RedHat based project to eliminate this problem. > > > > Jim C. > > I Marco at RULE. He says it will be, basically, a new project because > the original was RedHat centric because that's what they were using > when they began trying to get Linux on smaller boxes. > > Michael Fratoni modified the RedHat installer. Someone would have to do > the same for the Mandrake installer. Perhaps it could be incorporated > or become an option of the Mandrake installer?
biggest hassle would be the exact same hassle that RULE had. The current installer requires too dang much ram. Getting around this was the single biggest problem they had. I was doing some testing for them in the early days, and this was the hassle that drove them nuts. Even the current installer run in graphical mode requires at least 64 megs to run. Not to mention the problems with modules etc. It could be done. Yes. But it might be easier to create a new low mem installer than to back port the current one. My thought would be this. Could you drop back to say the 7.0 installer and work from there? (prior to this it was primarily a modded RH installer anyway. Or even do what MDK did in the beginning. Mod a RH installer (in this case the RULE installer) to do MDK rpms? Or what about the idea of creating a 100meg image and enough of a linux system on a cd. Partition the drive (say 100meg root 50meg swap and 350 megs for home (500meg drive) Then copy the 100meg image to / add users, run lilo and reboot. James > > regards, > Richard. > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Re: RULE for Mandrake? > Date: Thursday 21.August.2003 03:57 pm > From: "M. Fioretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: io <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Fratoni Michael > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 12:47:02 at 12:47:02PM -0400, Richard > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hello Marco, > > > > I just read a note on the Mandrake list asking about the possibility > > of creating a RULE for Mandrake. > > Interesting! Which note? Do you have a URL? > > > Perhaps it has been discussed on the list but I've not been following > > it lately. My C skills are very rusty and corroded with Pascal. > > > > Is this a way to amplify Run Linux Everywhere? > > Would it require a separate project? > > RULE (= Run Up to date Linux Everywhere) is not a distribution and is > basically made of three parts: > > 1) Modify the standard installer or create a new one working with less > RAM than the official one > > 2) Choose the selection of *existing* packages for the given > distribution which gives the most real functionality with the > smallest resources, creating new ones only when there is really no > alternative > > 3) Define a set of tip, tricks configuration files and best practices > to make the system run faster, in less disk space. > > ##################################################################### > > Part 1) was done for RULE/Red Hat by Michael Fratoni, cc: to this > answer, and is distribution specific, you can't use the RULE > installers for Mandrake or Debian. You can build new ones with the > same approach of slinky (based on busybox) but it would be a different > project. Michael has the last word on this, however, as he wrote the > SW. > > Part 2 and 3 above are much less distribution specific. If we find > out, say, that mail client XYZ is the one with the greatest > functionality and the smallest amount of extra libraries needed, it > would probably be the same on all distributions. Ditto for the tips > and tricks category. > > RULE uses Red Hat because the idea came out from Red Hat users and we > have no time or skills to play with other distributions, not because > of any religious-like decision. My answer to a RULE for Mandrake > sub-project is the same I routinely give to people asking how to reuse > old Macs or SPARCs: it is a great idea, we could all learn a lot, > reuse a lot of skills and effort, but somebody must step in and take > the lead for the corresponding sub-project. > > Let me know if anybody is willing to give it a try. Consider however > that I'll leave for vacation in a few hours, and will be back about > september 5th. > > Please forward this to the mandrake list, as I am not subscribed > there, and let me know the URL of any relevant discussion. > > Thanks for your interest in RULE! > > Ciao, > Marco Fioretti > > -- > Marco Fioretti m.fioretti, at the server inwind.it > Red Hat for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/en/ > > May your campfire always burn bright > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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