Great pictures in the album Mark! You are getting around!
Chuck McAbee SEDIV #16 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindsey, Mark Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] RWHP Like this Honda powered tandem Indy car? http://tinyurl.com/yoy6jn I had the pleasure of riding on the street of Richmond in this one when it broke down and I fixed it for them. Mark Lindsey, AIA Principal Baskervill architecture + engineering + interior design 804 343 1010 fax 343 0909 baskervill.com ask + listen + create -----Original Message----- From: Chris Reinhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP Last I heard he was building a tandem 2 seat Indy car for a rentals in Phoenix I thought..... CR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [F500] RWHP > No they are not related in any way. I do not know what happened to the > guy > from NY. > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Chris Reinhardt > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP > > > Jay, the Phoenix, is that the go kart guy from NY that built some of the > Novakars? I talked to him just before he moved out west... > > > CR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP > > >> The newer Honda's are... >> >> CR >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP >> >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> The other way. >>> Open loop cannot accommodate a restictor. The 1000cc engines are open >>> loop, so I assume the 600cc ones are also. Have you seen any ehaust gas >>> sensors on any bikes for closed loop ? There must be some now. >>> >>> >>> Phoenix Raceworks has their 1st F1000 car on the track out here now and >>> have advance orders. >>> However they say they probably will go through one more development >>> cycle >>> on the existing tunnels and bodywork. They also now sell a nice dry >>> sump kit separately for just over $1000. >>> I was looking at their wing package and it is quite nice-not too >>> expensive because F1000 requires non-carbon. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Chris Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP >>>>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:57:28 -0400 >>>> >>>>Chuck, so you're saying that FI motor with a closed loop Lamda probe can >>>>not do it???? It really depends on which motor and how much you want to >>>>trim off. I personally think a "stock" motor would be close to the ball >>>>park, just adding weight would ballance it out. The F1000 left the >>>>engine rules wide open, not good... >>>> >>>>CR >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:36 PM >>>>Subject: [F500] RWHP >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ah Bill, >>>>>Caution: restrictors probably should not be planned for motorcycle >>>>>powered F600. >>>>> >>>>>F1000 rules makers decided they could not use restrictors because a >>>>>modern MC FI motor with stock FI absolutely cannot accommodate a >>>>>restrictor. >>>>> >>>>>The FI pukes fuel all over. It is an open loop system. It has to work >>>>>like that. >>>>> >>>>>That is why FSAE kids play with their laptops so much. >>>>> >>>>>According to widly published magazine tests, those 115 to 120 HP bike >>>>>motors have 106 to 108HP to rear wheels on a stock internals Suzuki or >>>>>Honda 600cc. >>>>> >>>>>Next year it will be more HP. Very competitive market for those cute >>>>>little motors. >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, thats about 9 to 12 HP loss in transmission, chain, and a tiny >>>>>bit in the tire. Lets figure on 10 HP average loss. >>>>> >>>>>Now we add lower restriction muffler + aftemarket tubular exhaust. >>>>>All that should be worth 2-4 HP. We'll use an added 3 HP >>>>> >>>>>We are then at maybe 109-111 rear wheel HP >>>>> >>>>>What do you think a 95 to 100 HP fully developed properly clutched >>>>>Rotax >>>>>ends up with at the rear wheels? >>>>> >>>>>If we assume that a CVT is just as efficient as a bike drivetrain, then >>>>>we subtract 10 HP to get 90 RWHP best case, I believe. >>>>> >>>>>Thats 19 HP less at the rear wheels than using the lower HP Suzuki bike >>>>>motor HP for comparison. >>>>> >>>>>Lets knock off another 2 HP on the difference in efficiency since we >>>>>only were flexing one tire in the bike dyno tests. >>>>> >>>>>Thats why I asked "what about a Novakar with 17 more RWHP" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thats the thought process anyway. Caution, your tuning ability may >>>>>vary..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: "Jan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Subject: RE: [F500] Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:17:20 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>>I have been meaning to post on this issue for a couple of weeks now, >>>>>>but >>>>>>have been very busy with my Dad's funeral stuff. I have been keeping >>>>>>close communication with the local Fsae boys and have some >>>>>>enlightening >>>>>>info. They are taking a 115 to 120hp Honda motor and strangling it >>>>>>down >>>>>>with a single inlet restrictor (metric) that is roughly the size of a >>>>>>nickel. They are claiming 80 to 81 hp on the dyno. They attach a cv >>>>>>joint jack shaft where the countershaft sprocket would normally mount >>>>>>and run it straight over to the dyno. Now, they are allowed big >>>>>>compression, big valves, big cams and allowed to play with FI stuff. I >>>>>>bet our "no internal mods" engine would be around 75hp to 80 hp. I >>>>>>dont >>>>>>think that anyone has to worry about our possible future "crotch >>>>>>rocket" >>>>>>engine being an overkill and screwing up the class. If someone wants >>>>>>to >>>>>>cross post this to eformula, that is fine. I havent gotten off my butt >>>>>>and subscribed , yet. >>>>>>Happy motoring >>>>>>Bill Schmidt 88 RD Kawi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/26/07 9:48 AM >>> >>>>>>Should be interesting to see what another 17 HP or so to the ground >>>>>>from >>>>>>a >>>>>>bike motor does in a car like Brian's. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >From: "Jeff Jorgenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>> >To: [email protected] >>>>>> >Subject: [F500] Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>> >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:23:00 -0700 >>>>>> > >>>>>> >June 25, 2007 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > For Immediate Release >>>>>> >Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Formula 500 Constructors Series presented by, >>>>>> >Novakar, QRE, Red Devil, Scorpion, Sidewinder, TR1, >>>>>> >Dolphin-Motorsports, Jondal Machine, F500.org and Vertical Curve >>>>>> >Racing >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Congratulations to Brian Novak - he won the June Sprints in a >>>>>> >dominating drive, setting a track record on the way. Steve Jondal >>>>>> >came out on top of a super duel with Don Hamilton to capture second >>>>>> >place and the lead of the Formula 500 Constructors Series. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Series Standings: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Name Points Total >>>>>> >Steve Jondal 13.5 >>>>>> >Jeff Jorgenson 12 >>>>>> >Clint McMahan 12 >>>>>> >Brian Novak 12 >>>>>> >Kenny Holzer 9 >>>>>> >Tom Hastings 9 >>>>>> >Kenny Price 7 >>>>>> >Aaron Ellis 6 >>>>>> >Tom Shaughnessy 5 >>>>>> >Andrew Brenkus 4 >>>>>> >John Walbran 3 >>>>>> >Thomas Bartz 2 >>>>>> >Darrel Greening 1 >>>>>> >Charlie Schlismann 1 >>>>>> >Peter Zak 1 >>>>>> >Don Hamilton 1 >>>>>> >Brian Brothers 1 >>>>>> >Bob Giesen 1 >>>>>> >Michel Vacek 1 >>>>>> >Bob Berman 0 >>>>>> >Cory McLeod 0 >>>>>> >Jim Elder 0 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >See you in Topeka! > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 > 9:08 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 > 9:08 PM Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, and any attachment to it, contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the e-mail. 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