All good parties come to an end.....we got stopped by one of Richmond's finest near the end of our trip. The almost real "manufacturer's plate" on the back made him go away. Street legal my *ss! It had one brake/rain light and two ricer fog lights bolted to the front.
Mark Lindsey, AIA Principal Baskervill architecture + engineering + interior design 804 343 1010 fax 343 0909 baskervill.com ask + listen + create -----Original Message----- From: Chuck McAbee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] RWHP Great pictures in the album Mark! You are getting around! Chuck McAbee SEDIV #16 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindsey, Mark Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [F500] RWHP Like this Honda powered tandem Indy car? http://tinyurl.com/yoy6jn I had the pleasure of riding on the street of Richmond in this one when it broke down and I fixed it for them. Mark Lindsey, AIA Principal Baskervill architecture + engineering + interior design 804 343 1010 fax 343 0909 baskervill.com ask + listen + create -----Original Message----- From: Chris Reinhardt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP Last I heard he was building a tandem 2 seat Indy car for a rentals in Phoenix I thought..... CR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: RE: [F500] RWHP > No they are not related in any way. I do not know what happened to the > guy > from NY. > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Chris Reinhardt > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:17 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP > > > Jay, the Phoenix, is that the go kart guy from NY that built some of the > Novakars? I talked to him just before he moved out west... > > > CR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Reinhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 7:18 PM > Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP > > >> The newer Honda's are... >> >> CR >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:09 AM >> Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP >> >> >>> Chris, >>> >>> The other way. >>> Open loop cannot accommodate a restictor. The 1000cc engines are open >>> loop, so I assume the 600cc ones are also. Have you seen any ehaust gas >>> sensors on any bikes for closed loop ? There must be some now. >>> >>> >>> Phoenix Raceworks has their 1st F1000 car on the track out here now and >>> have advance orders. >>> However they say they probably will go through one more development >>> cycle >>> on the existing tunnels and bodywork. They also now sell a nice dry >>> sump kit separately for just over $1000. >>> I was looking at their wing package and it is quite nice-not too >>> expensive because F1000 requires non-carbon. >>> >>> >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>From: Chris Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>To: [email protected] >>>>Subject: Re: [F500] RWHP >>>>Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:57:28 -0400 >>>> >>>>Chuck, so you're saying that FI motor with a closed loop Lamda probe can >>>>not do it???? It really depends on which motor and how much you want to >>>>trim off. I personally think a "stock" motor would be close to the ball >>>>park, just adding weight would ballance it out. The F1000 left the >>>>engine rules wide open, not good... >>>> >>>>CR >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: <[email protected]> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:36 PM >>>>Subject: [F500] RWHP >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ah Bill, >>>>>Caution: restrictors probably should not be planned for motorcycle >>>>>powered F600. >>>>> >>>>>F1000 rules makers decided they could not use restrictors because a >>>>>modern MC FI motor with stock FI absolutely cannot accommodate a >>>>>restrictor. >>>>> >>>>>The FI pukes fuel all over. It is an open loop system. It has to work >>>>>like that. >>>>> >>>>>That is why FSAE kids play with their laptops so much. >>>>> >>>>>According to widly published magazine tests, those 115 to 120 HP bike >>>>>motors have 106 to 108HP to rear wheels on a stock internals Suzuki or >>>>>Honda 600cc. >>>>> >>>>>Next year it will be more HP. Very competitive market for those cute >>>>>little motors. >>>>> >>>>>Anyway, thats about 9 to 12 HP loss in transmission, chain, and a tiny >>>>>bit in the tire. Lets figure on 10 HP average loss. >>>>> >>>>>Now we add lower restriction muffler + aftemarket tubular exhaust. >>>>>All that should be worth 2-4 HP. We'll use an added 3 HP >>>>> >>>>>We are then at maybe 109-111 rear wheel HP >>>>> >>>>>What do you think a 95 to 100 HP fully developed properly clutched >>>>>Rotax >>>>>ends up with at the rear wheels? >>>>> >>>>>If we assume that a CVT is just as efficient as a bike drivetrain, then >>>>>we subtract 10 HP to get 90 RWHP best case, I believe. >>>>> >>>>>Thats 19 HP less at the rear wheels than using the lower HP Suzuki bike >>>>>motor HP for comparison. >>>>> >>>>>Lets knock off another 2 HP on the difference in efficiency since we >>>>>only were flexing one tire in the bike dyno tests. >>>>> >>>>>Thats why I asked "what about a Novakar with 17 more RWHP" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Thats the thought process anyway. Caution, your tuning ability may >>>>>vary..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>From: "Jan Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>>To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>Subject: RE: [F500] Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:17:20 -0500 >>>>>> >>>>>>I have been meaning to post on this issue for a couple of weeks now, >>>>>>but >>>>>>have been very busy with my Dad's funeral stuff. I have been keeping >>>>>>close communication with the local Fsae boys and have some >>>>>>enlightening >>>>>>info. They are taking a 115 to 120hp Honda motor and strangling it >>>>>>down >>>>>>with a single inlet restrictor (metric) that is roughly the size of a >>>>>>nickel. They are claiming 80 to 81 hp on the dyno. They attach a cv >>>>>>joint jack shaft where the countershaft sprocket would normally mount >>>>>>and run it straight over to the dyno. Now, they are allowed big >>>>>>compression, big valves, big cams and allowed to play with FI stuff. I >>>>>>bet our "no internal mods" engine would be around 75hp to 80 hp. I >>>>>>dont >>>>>>think that anyone has to worry about our possible future "crotch >>>>>>rocket" >>>>>>engine being an overkill and screwing up the class. If someone wants >>>>>>to >>>>>>cross post this to eformula, that is fine. I havent gotten off my butt >>>>>>and subscribed , yet. >>>>>>Happy motoring >>>>>>Bill Schmidt 88 RD Kawi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/26/07 9:48 AM >>> >>>>>>Should be interesting to see what another 17 HP or so to the ground >>>>>>from >>>>>>a >>>>>>bike motor does in a car like Brian's. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >From: "Jeff Jorgenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >Reply-To: [email protected] >>>>>> >To: [email protected] >>>>>> >Subject: [F500] Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>> >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:23:00 -0700 >>>>>> > >>>>>> >June 25, 2007 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > For Immediate Release >>>>>> >Novak wins Sprints, Jondal takes Series lead >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Formula 500 Constructors Series presented by, >>>>>> >Novakar, QRE, Red Devil, Scorpion, Sidewinder, TR1, >>>>>> >Dolphin-Motorsports, Jondal Machine, F500.org and Vertical Curve >>>>>> >Racing >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Congratulations to Brian Novak - he won the June Sprints in a >>>>>> >dominating drive, setting a track record on the way. Steve Jondal >>>>>> >came out on top of a super duel with Don Hamilton to capture second >>>>>> >place and the lead of the Formula 500 Constructors Series. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Series Standings: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Name Points Total >>>>>> >Steve Jondal 13.5 >>>>>> >Jeff Jorgenson 12 >>>>>> >Clint McMahan 12 >>>>>> >Brian Novak 12 >>>>>> >Kenny Holzer 9 >>>>>> >Tom Hastings 9 >>>>>> >Kenny Price 7 >>>>>> >Aaron Ellis 6 >>>>>> >Tom Shaughnessy 5 >>>>>> >Andrew Brenkus 4 >>>>>> >John Walbran 3 >>>>>> >Thomas Bartz 2 >>>>>> >Darrel Greening 1 >>>>>> >Charlie Schlismann 1 >>>>>> >Peter Zak 1 >>>>>> >Don Hamilton 1 >>>>>> >Brian Brothers 1 >>>>>> >Bob Giesen 1 >>>>>> >Michel Vacek 1 >>>>>> >Bob Berman 0 >>>>>> >Cory McLeod 0 >>>>>> >Jim Elder 0 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >See you in Topeka! > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 > 9:08 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 - Release Date: 6/27/2007 > 9:08 PM Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, and any attachment to it, contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named on the e-mail. 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