--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > Curtis, this is addressed to you and I'm sure you will respond, > but.....may I ? > > Trinity3, why would you doubt that he doesn't feel independent of > unconscious processes, > > and that he uses them (uncoscious processes) for his art ? It seems > that Curtis is fully one > > with the creative expressions from their inception, through their > expression through his > > art, in his case blues music performance. The concept of control of > the process was > > introduced by your question, and isn't what he asserts. He seems > to be a fully > > enlightened artist, at one with the first creative impulse, through > its relative expression of > > his own voice, guitar, and physical expression. Expanding the range > of awareness of the > > conscious mind to percieve the first impulses of creativity is what > FFLers have been doing > > naturally for a very long time. > > -Mainstream > > Mainstream, maybe I am doing injustice to Curtis, I am certainly not > doubting his creative process. Its simply my understanding of atheism > as a philosophy of life. Religion, any religion certainly questions > the independence of our mind /ego (while I am aware that Christianity > makes it a special point that God gave man freedom of decision - not > my belief) and makes it dependent on another entity, atheism asserts > us that we alone are in control of our lives. At least thats what I > have understood it to mean until now. Of course, everyone is aware of > 'limitations' we all have,imposed to us by nature. But there is a > fundamental belief that we are ourself in charge of what we believe > in, that we with our mind can logically understand life and should > reject irrationality. In fact religion is seen as 'irrational' by > atheists, which implies that they believe in a rational understanding > of life. IOW they regard ratio higher than feelings or experiences (as > Curtis is never tired to point out that he regards the same mystical > experiences many of us share in a different way and strips them of > any religious meaning they could have.) In fact he tries to understand > them rationally only, as I believe. Thus he places ratio highest, and > I always understood this to mean a place where intellect is 'in control' >
t3rinity, you have a polar opposite view from atheism regarding the authorship of any person's thoughts. While atheism denies the existence of God, you attribute all thoughts to God - Even the thoughts of atheists' that deny God's existence!! Why do you believe that humans do not have free will ? Is the concept of free will too removed from the belief that God authors all ? What if God authored free will ? How would that concept fit for you ?
