--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" 
> <mainstream20016@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > On Behalf Of mainstream20016
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:59 AM
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with 
> my 
> > > apology to
> > > > chris
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Regarding the reassurance that SatYug is nigh at hand, through 
> the
> > > > inevitability and 
> > > > necessity of India's role to bring all good to all of us - 
> Great ! 
> > > Wonderful
> > > > ! I look forward to 
> > > > cathcing the rays of a global bath of beneficent light. Yet, as 
> a
> > > > practicality, it would be a 
> > > > good thing, and wise, to have a direct hand in raising one's 
> > > consciousness.
> > > > So I advocate 
> > > > for wide-spread individual TM practice in the West, yet that 
> cannot 
> > > happen
> > > > if TMO remains 
> > > > an overtly religious organization. TM has, and can again, be 
> taught 
> > > honestly
> > > > and 
> > > > effectively as a secular technique. As the last thirty-two 
> years 
> > > has shown,
> > > > unless TM is 
> > > > taught as a secular technique, it's impact will be nill, 
> > > notwithstanding the
> > > > coming glories 
> > > > of SatYug.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Seems to me Pandora's box has been opened. Even if the TMO were 
> to 
> > > try to
> > > > scale back and present TM as a secular technique, critics would 
> be 
> > > able to
> > > > present all sorts of evidence that for decades, it has been 
> > > associated with
> > > > Hindu and various wacky things. The TMO would be accused of 
> trying 
> > > to hide
> > > > all that for marketing purposes.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > **********
> > > 
> > > You are, naturally, missing the point of what's happening 
> completely. 
> > > It does not matter how people in the West perceive TM -- it's 
> enough 
> > > that a few people, aided by the presence of pundits, are doing TM 
> in 
> > > the West -- it's only necessary that a few candles have been lit 
> > > throughout the world, and that has been accomplished. India alone 
> can 
> > > be responsible for the transition to a Vedic culture, Sat Yuga, 
> and 
> > > in India semantics about TM as religion are meaningless.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> > Bob,  the ideas that:  all is well...that everything is now being 
> taken care of to bring Sat 
> > Yug.... made possible from India....  raise doubt in me, even 
> though I fully support and 
> > encourage whoever is involved in raising consciousness.  Westerners 
> who financially  
> > support the TMO have likely been given similar reassurances while 
> making donations, and 
> > the donors have come to expect full-well the large degree to which 
> resources in the 
> > movement are funnelled out of the West. 
> > I suspect your perspective has few adherents.
> 
> 
>   Why not encourage the widespread direct 
> > experience of TM ?
> >
> 
> 
> 
> *************
> 
> Because the West is too encased in ignorance -- as is obvious on this 
> list from the many people who have dumped TM, there is a limit to how 
> much light people living in dense ignorance can tolerate, and so it's 
> just not possible to enable a more enlightened world on the basis of 
> a lot of people outside India learning TM. 
> 
> Even in India, of course, life is lived in dense ignorance, but India 
> is the home of the Ved, the natural place for a revival of Vedic 
> civilization, and the people will respond favorably when the pundits 
> open up a little more light there.
>

So, the West is relegated to catching a few rays of light - and told it is 
ignorant and unable 
to tolerate higher states of consciousness directly, and therefore impossible 
for the West 
to contribute to a more enlighened world by widely learning TM.   Go ahead, 
tell us what 
you really think about the West..... geez.  

In contrast, I think the West, particularly the U.S., is in great need of TM, 
and will adopt TM 
broadly when it as a firmly presented as a secular technique, ala TM 
instruction prior to 
1976, when the overtly religious TM-Sidhi program instruction began.  No, the 
West won't 
adopt overtly religious programs, but that doesn't make the West ignorant - it 
makes it 
prudent, wise, and relevant.  It's time, again, for a full-scale, secular based 
organization to 
teach TM as a secular technique, to provide individuals a direct experience of 
higher 
consciousness, rather than promising hints of higher consciousness rays 
generated from 
the other side of the world.  

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