--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016" > > <mainstream20016@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > On Behalf Of mainstream20016 > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 11:59 AM > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: more meditating school info with > > my > > > > apology to > > > > > chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the reassurance that SatYug is nigh at hand, through > > the > > > > > inevitability and > > > > > necessity of India's role to bring all good to all of us - > > Great ! > > > > Wonderful > > > > > ! I look forward to > > > > > cathcing the rays of a global bath of beneficent light. Yet, as > > a > > > > > practicality, it would be a > > > > > good thing, and wise, to have a direct hand in raising one's > > > > consciousness. > > > > > So I advocate > > > > > for wide-spread individual TM practice in the West, yet that > > cannot > > > > happen > > > > > if TMO remains > > > > > an overtly religious organization. TM has, and can again, be > > taught > > > > honestly > > > > > and > > > > > effectively as a secular technique. As the last thirty-two > > years > > > > has shown, > > > > > unless TM is > > > > > taught as a secular technique, it's impact will be nill, > > > > notwithstanding the > > > > > coming glories > > > > > of SatYug. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me Pandora's box has been opened. Even if the TMO were > > to > > > > try to > > > > > scale back and present TM as a secular technique, critics would > > be > > > > able to > > > > > present all sorts of evidence that for decades, it has been > > > > associated with > > > > > Hindu and various wacky things. The TMO would be accused of > > trying > > > > to hide > > > > > all that for marketing purposes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********** > > > > > > > > You are, naturally, missing the point of what's happening > > completely. > > > > It does not matter how people in the West perceive TM -- it's > > enough > > > > that a few people, aided by the presence of pundits, are doing TM > > in > > > > the West -- it's only necessary that a few candles have been lit > > > > throughout the world, and that has been accomplished. India alone > > can > > > > be responsible for the transition to a Vedic culture, Sat Yuga, > > and > > > > in India semantics about TM as religion are meaningless. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob, the ideas that: all is well...that everything is now being > > taken care of to bring Sat > > > Yug.... made possible from India.... raise doubt in me, even > > though I fully support and > > > encourage whoever is involved in raising consciousness. Westerners > > who financially > > > support the TMO have likely been given similar reassurances while > > making donations, and > > > the donors have come to expect full-well the large degree to which > > resources in the > > > movement are funnelled out of the West. > > > I suspect your perspective has few adherents. > > > > > > Why not encourage the widespread direct > > > experience of TM ? > > > > > > > > > > > ************* > > > > Because the West is too encased in ignorance -- as is obvious on this > > list from the many people who have dumped TM, there is a limit to how > > much light people living in dense ignorance can tolerate, and so it's > > just not possible to enable a more enlightened world on the basis of > > a lot of people outside India learning TM. > > > > Even in India, of course, life is lived in dense ignorance, but India > > is the home of the Ved, the natural place for a revival of Vedic > > civilization, and the people will respond favorably when the pundits > > open up a little more light there. > > > > So, the West is relegated to catching a few rays of light - and told it is ignorant and unable > to tolerate higher states of consciousness directly, and therefore impossible for the West > to contribute to a more enlighened world by widely learning TM. Go ahead, tell us what > you really think about the West..... geez. > > In contrast, I think the West, particularly the U.S., is in great need of TM, and will adopt TM > broadly when it as a firmly presented as a secular technique, ala TM instruction prior to > 1976, when the overtly religious TM-Sidhi program instruction began. No, the West won't > adopt overtly religious programs, but that doesn't make the West ignorant - it makes it > prudent, wise, and relevant. It's time, again, for a full-scale, secular based organization to > teach TM as a secular technique, to provide individuals a direct experience of higher > consciousness, rather than promising hints of higher consciousness rays generated from > the other side of the world.
Seculiar society, seculiar techiques ? Oh please, it's doomed. As is democracy.
