Thanks Bairitu, I agree about TM Teachers being too slap dash with the mantra. When I was initiated,I sat down the next day to do my morning meditation,could not think of my mantra,rang my teacher in a panic,he calmly said he would check it at the afternoon first day follow up. He was a nice old man in his seventies,I caught up with him years later,and he had reached the ripe old age of 96! When he taught me,he had not yet done the siddhis,he did them the following year in 1978. I got him to repeat my mantra several times,and then I wrote it down phonetically so as never to forget it again,I kept it for years!
Thanks for all your help,I really appreciate it. Jai Ma, Billy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At a subtler level as with any mantra meditation you're not going to be > able to tell what exactly the pronunciation is. You'll always start > with the mantra clearly and a good teacher will make sure you have the > correct understanding of the pronunciation (it's too slap dash in TM). > Just like TM it can turn into a "faint idea or feeling " more than a > clear pronunciation. Most mantra meditation does not vary from TM much > at all because TM meditation was borrowed from the way mantra meditation > has been taught for centuries (but with different mantras for you > nitpickers). Of course we can "nitpick" about concentration as there > are some schools that emphasize that but not mine. In fact what some > gurus may call "concentration" is the same process as TM of just > bringing the mind back to the mantra when you realize you're off it > rather than forcing the mind on it. > > > biosoundbill wrote: > > Hi Bhairitu, > > > > Does it matter if the pronounciation of a longer mantra changes as > > it becomes more refined ,just as ones TM Mantra changes when > > meditating effortlessly. > > > > Namaste, > > > > Billy > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > >> biosoundbill wrote: > >> > >>> Bhairitu, > >>> > >>> I meant to ask you as you meditate with a longer mantra > >>> effortlessly,are you able to let go completely as in TM where > >>> > > the > > > >>> bija can become very faint,unclear, and barely recognizable.Are > >>> > > you > > > >>> able to allow a longer mantra to become very faint,unclear, and > >>> barely recognizable also? > >>> > >>> >From my preception it seems that a longer mantra would,unlike > >>> > > TM, > > > >>> require a degree of concentration! > >>> > >>> Namaste, > >>> > >>> Billy > >>> > >> Yes the longer mantra will refine to a very faint idea. After a > >> > > while > > > >> the mantra will also just go on it's own so no concentration > >> > > required. > > > > > > > > > > >
