Matrixmonitor, Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta are NOT "neo" Advitans... some of their students and disciples have sullied the knowledge with ego, and them I can label neo, but Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta are pure Advaita...and they did pujas and suggested bhakti techniques also.
If you read Ramana's "Talks" three times, you'll see that unity is the basis of everything he espouses, and he's incredibly practical in dealing with duality. Gotta read him until you can feel him; otherwise, you'll condemning one of the most powerful teachers that ever walked the planet....and that is a punishable offense of deep degree in the eyes of "those who await your spirit's arrival at the pearly gates." Beware Matrix, beware. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --Below: Vaj suggests a brain transplant for Jerry. HA!. Funny. > Actually, I observed long ago that he's "brainless". There's only a > type of vacancy in the cranial cavity, which amounts to a perverse > Neo-Advaitin-ism, which he's fallen for. (the main proponent - > Nisargadatta Maharaj). He sent me one of the Maharaj books - > transcribed lectures, but I may have trashed it. > Just my POV, but I can't fathom how anybody with a real brain could > fall for that Neo-Advaitin nonsense.; but now I've opened up a can of > worms since I've made a precise claim which deserves some > examples....maybe later tonight; (althoug there's a new "Numbers" > tonight. Can't miss it!). > I'm into Buddhism. On the whole, Buddhism circumvents the pitfalls > of Neo-Advaita since while the latter posits the existence as "The > Self", there's no provision for the dynamic aspect. In addition, I > don't believe Nis. Maharaj or Ramana have constructively dealt with > the little problem of suffering; except to say: (it doesn't "really" > exist). > Buddhism circumvents the Neo-Advaita trap since any orientation of > a "two-aspect" Brahman is another form of delusion in the face of > what some Buddhists call "the true entity of life"; i.e. existence > itself, the true nature of existence a whole, as an absolute > continuum. Being absolutely continuous, there's no possibility of > falling to various ontological traps involving a Self/not-Self > dichotomy. > We can see this in the ordinary speech of the Dalai Lama. Having > realized the absolute Continuity of emptiness, he doesn't go around > talking about two existences. Life reverts to Unity, but then the > same carrying water and chopping wood. He doesn't even admit being > Enlightened! (in public at least). When asked by Barbara Walters if > he was Enlightened, the DL laughed and said, "No, not yet!". > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:50 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: > > > > > ---Dialog: yes, in a manner of speaking....I talked to him for > 1/2 hr > > > a while ago and regularly send him items of interest (such as > > > forwarding info from this forum - which he declines to subscribe > to). > > > He sent me an information packet on the prison program (as > reported > > > in a previous post). My objective is to eventually wean him away > > > from all TMO-based negative influences, of which there are many > since > > > most are pie in the sky pipe dreams. > > > For example, he mentioned the Spiritual Capital of the U.S > (Brahma- > > > something, in the geographical center of the US, Kansas). > > > Then I replied that there's a greater chance of the Mormon > Spiritual > > > center of the world being implemented than the TMO center. The > > > Mormons believe that Jesus will return, setting up a "New > Jerusalem" - > > > I believe in Kansas City MO...NOT Kansas; since if you know your > > > Mormon history, Missouri is cherished Mormon territory since the > > > Latter Day Saints set up residences there before moving on to > Utah. > > > He mentioned contacting billionaries to gain access to 100 Mil for > > > the prison project. > > > I like to be at least "somewhat" tactful!. It takes a certain > skill > > > to tell somebody they're on the wrong track but not offending > them; > > > and most of all lots of patience. > > > > > > Have you suggested a brain transplant yet? :-) > > >
