---Nis. Maharaj yes, ; Ramana somewhat only since he's a devotee of Arunachala Shiva. I know the difference. A Neo-Advaitin (among other "things" is a person who takes an exclusionary position in One aspect of Brahman, the static; while ignoring the dynamic aspect, and spouting a POV that knowledge of the Self alone - Gnosis - is sufficient remedy for all problems...; and byw, WHO is asking or stating RM and NIS are NOT Neo-Advaitins? See how utterly ridiculous this gets? Your're a nobody, the world is nothing, and there's no karma, no suffering, no individuals, nothing. You don't exist! Just the Self. What rubbish!
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matrixmonitor, > > Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta are NOT "neo" Advitans... some of > their students and disciples have sullied the knowledge with ego, and > them I can label neo, but Ramana Maharishi and Nisargadatta are pure > Advaita...and they did pujas and suggested bhakti techniques also. > > If you read Ramana's "Talks" three times, you'll see that unity is the > basis of everything he espouses, and he's incredibly practical in > dealing with duality. > > Gotta read him until you can feel him; otherwise, you'll condemning > one of the most powerful teachers that ever walked the planet....and > that is a punishable offense of deep degree in the eyes of "those who > await your spirit's arrival at the pearly gates." > > Beware Matrix, beware. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" > <matrixmonitor@> wrote: > > > > --Below: Vaj suggests a brain transplant for Jerry. HA!. Funny. > > Actually, I observed long ago that he's "brainless". There's only a > > type of vacancy in the cranial cavity, which amounts to a perverse > > Neo-Advaitin-ism, which he's fallen for. (the main proponent - > > Nisargadatta Maharaj). He sent me one of the Maharaj books - > > transcribed lectures, but I may have trashed it. > > Just my POV, but I can't fathom how anybody with a real brain could > > fall for that Neo-Advaitin nonsense.; but now I've opened up a can of > > worms since I've made a precise claim which deserves some > > examples....maybe later tonight; (althoug there's a new "Numbers" > > tonight. Can't miss it!). > > I'm into Buddhism. On the whole, Buddhism circumvents the pitfalls > > of Neo-Advaita since while the latter posits the existence as "The > > Self", there's no provision for the dynamic aspect. In addition, I > > don't believe Nis. Maharaj or Ramana have constructively dealt with > > the little problem of suffering; except to say: (it doesn't "really" > > exist). > > Buddhism circumvents the Neo-Advaita trap since any orientation of > > a "two-aspect" Brahman is another form of delusion in the face of > > what some Buddhists call "the true entity of life"; i.e. existence > > itself, the true nature of existence a whole, as an absolute > > continuum. Being absolutely continuous, there's no possibility of > > falling to various ontological traps involving a Self/not-Self > > dichotomy. > > We can see this in the ordinary speech of the Dalai Lama. Having > > realized the absolute Continuity of emptiness, he doesn't go around > > talking about two existences. Life reverts to Unity, but then the > > same carrying water and chopping wood. He doesn't even admit being > > Enlightened! (in public at least). When asked by Barbara Walters if > > he was Enlightened, the DL laughed and said, "No, not yet!". > > > > - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:50 PM, matrixmonitor wrote: > > > > > > > ---Dialog: yes, in a manner of speaking....I talked to him for > > 1/2 hr > > > > a while ago and regularly send him items of interest (such as > > > > forwarding info from this forum - which he declines to subscribe > > to). > > > > He sent me an information packet on the prison program (as > > reported > > > > in a previous post). My objective is to eventually wean him away > > > > from all TMO-based negative influences, of which there are many > > since > > > > most are pie in the sky pipe dreams. > > > > For example, he mentioned the Spiritual Capital of the U.S > > (Brahma- > > > > something, in the geographical center of the US, Kansas). > > > > Then I replied that there's a greater chance of the Mormon > > Spiritual > > > > center of the world being implemented than the TMO center. The > > > > Mormons believe that Jesus will return, setting up a "New > > Jerusalem" - > > > > I believe in Kansas City MO...NOT Kansas; since if you know your > > > > Mormon history, Missouri is cherished Mormon territory since the > > > > Latter Day Saints set up residences there before moving on to > > Utah. > > > > He mentioned contacting billionaries to gain access to 100 Mil for > > > > the prison project. > > > > I like to be at least "somewhat" tactful!. It takes a certain > > skill > > > > to tell somebody they're on the wrong track but not offending > > them; > > > > and most of all lots of patience. > > > > > > > > > Have you suggested a brain transplant yet? :-) > > > > > >