--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:25 PM, sandiego108 wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:11 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wgm4u@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@>
wrote:
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > > Maybe he really wasn't a yogi. Is that a possibility
here?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes!
> > > >
> > > > Be interesting to hear a definition of "yogi"
> > > > from both of you.
> > >
> > > "CC" type attainment as a minimum--the slightly dualistic
> > > turiyatita--"beyond the forth" being what I'd refer to in a TM-
> > style
> > > context.
> > >
> > > But there are non-dual and other yogis as well, so it is good
to
> > > specify what "style" of yogi you mean when you make some sort
of
> > > declaration. It's not a monolithic thing. I'm always glad to
> > specify
> > > if people are sensitive enough to even ask.
> > >
> > > Most aren't.
> > >
> > and those that know the truth about this sort of thing aren't
> > either. Go home pretender. This notion that you have of their
being
> > a never ending path of signs and symbols and sciences and levels
of
> > accomplishment is all designed to mollify the fear of complete
> > dissolution, of your own death. Nothing more.
> >
> > All who talk in these terms seek to keep those listening in
bondage,
> > keep them seeking outward for what is each of our spontaneous and
> > wholly owned birthright, that of eternal freedom. Some of the
> > trappings of these rituals of Maya are beautiful, but that
doesn't
> > make them liberating.
> >
> > There are just two kinds of existence, 1) bound and segregated,
and
> > 2) free and integrated. To make a fundamentalist science as you
do
> > of all of these gradations and other things keeps the mind busy
so
> > that it can believe in something other than its own naturally
> > available annihilation. Just more fear and idiocy dancing with
Maya.
>
>
> Uh, thanks, Jim.
>
> I'll make sure I tell all the sages I meet.
>
No, better yet, continue to lose yourself in your layers and signs
and Ways and Views...that's the ticket. Arduously discover a
glimpse, a painful elicited glimmer of the one true self, no wait,
The One True Self Of Compassion--- Hilarious!!! You crack me up Vaj
Rant...
