--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:25 PM, sandiego108 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 7:11 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG." <wgm4u@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > > > Maybe he really wasn't a yogi. Is that a possibility here? > > > > > > > > > > Yes! > > > > > > > > Be interesting to hear a definition of "yogi" > > > > from both of you. > > > > > > "CC" type attainment as a minimum--the slightly dualistic > > > turiyatita--"beyond the forth" being what I'd refer to in a TM- > > style > > > context. > > > > > > But there are non-dual and other yogis as well, so it is good to > > > specify what "style" of yogi you mean when you make some sort of > > > declaration. It's not a monolithic thing. I'm always glad to > > specify > > > if people are sensitive enough to even ask. > > > > > > Most aren't. > > > > > and those that know the truth about this sort of thing aren't > > either. Go home pretender. This notion that you have of their being > > a never ending path of signs and symbols and sciences and levels of > > accomplishment is all designed to mollify the fear of complete > > dissolution, of your own death. Nothing more. > > > > All who talk in these terms seek to keep those listening in bondage, > > keep them seeking outward for what is each of our spontaneous and > > wholly owned birthright, that of eternal freedom. Some of the > > trappings of these rituals of Maya are beautiful, but that doesn't > > make them liberating. > > > > There are just two kinds of existence, 1) bound and segregated, and > > 2) free and integrated. To make a fundamentalist science as you do > > of all of these gradations and other things keeps the mind busy so > > that it can believe in something other than its own naturally > > available annihilation. Just more fear and idiocy dancing with Maya. > > > Uh, thanks, Jim. > > I'll make sure I tell all the sages I meet.
I doubt you've ever met one.