--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > <snip> > > > > I'd have to go to a library that had older books > > > > on Eastern spiritual techniques, because these > > > > days it's no longer used generically, at least in > > > > the U.S. But here are two (undated) sites on the > > > > Web that use it without any reference to MMY or > > > > TM: > > > > > > > > http://www.heavenlygardens.org/samadhi/step41.htm > > > > > > MMY refers to transcendental meditation as the simplest and most > > > important of the dhyan techniques. That referrence above is using > > > MMY's english term to refer to dyhan in Sanskrit. > > > > Or the chap was translating the Sanskrit term himself. > > That two people could come up with the same translation > > into English from the Sanskrit isn't at all unlikely. > > > > Even more likely is that "transcendental meditation" > > was one of the standard ways, if not *the* standard way, > > to translate the Sanskrit all along. But of course it > > would have meant different things in terms of actual > > implementation until MMY came along and nailed it down. > > > > > > http://www.krishna.org/sudarsana/a035.html#meditation > > > > > > The Krishna Consciousness guy came to the USA in 1966 straight > > > from India. SOBAL was first published in the UK in 1963. > > > > Seems to me vanishingly unlikely that two teachers who > > had their own distinctive techniques to push would steal > > the name of an entirely different technique. > > > > Except that his lecture where he first talks about > "Transcendental Meditation" is in late 1968 and he dismisses > it as purely of the mind, which is material: > > feed://odeo.com/channel/110013/rss.xml > > Bg. Introduction, Everyone Has Individuality > Jun 28, '06, 12:57 PM > âIntroduction to the Bhagavad-Gitaâ 68/11/23 Los Angeles, Bhagavad-gita 2.8-12 > > > Especially the Hare Krishna guy, since what he describes > > as "transcendental meditation" is the Hare Krishna chant, > > for pete's sake. > > Not when he first started talk about it, in 1968. He dismisses > that kind of thing as being mental, and hence material.
He says the way to do it in this age is by chanting the name of God: In this age meditational yoga is not possible But in this age of Kali, where everyone is disturbed, always full of anxieties, and where life is very short, people are generally not interested in any transcendental subject matter. They are interested only in the bodily concept of life. When one is always disturbed by so many anxieties, how can he ascend to the platform of transcendental realization. It is very difficult in this age. It was difficult even five thousand years ago, when Arjuna took instruction on meditation from Krishna in Bhagavad-gita. Arjuna was a royal prince; he was very much advanced in so many ways. Yet on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra he said, "My dear Krishna, it is not possible for me to practice this transcendental meditation, this dhyana-yoga process. I am a family man; I have come here to fight for my political interest. How can I practice this system, in which I have to go to a solitary place, I have to sit down, I have to cease from sex It is not possible." Arjuna was so much more qualified than we are, yet he refused to practice this meditation. [Notice that Prabhupada paraphrases Arjuna referring to dhyana-yoga as transcendental meditation.--JS] So, reaching the transcendental platform by the hatha-yoga or dhyana- yoga system is not at all possible in this age. And if somebody is trying to practice such so-called meditation, he is not actually practising transcendental meditation. You cannot perform this transcendental meditation in the city. It is not possible. That is very clearly stated in the Bhagavad-gita. But you are living in the city, you are living with your family, you are living with your friends. It is not possible for you to go to the forest and find a secluded place. But Krishna says you must do this to practice transcendental meditation. In this age chanting the holy name of God is recommended So here, in this age, if you want to rise to the transcendental platform, then you must follow the recommendations of the Vedic literature: kalau tad dhari-kirtanat. In this age, simply by chanting the holy name of God one can reach all perfection. We are not introducing this chanting system by our mental concoction, to make things very easy. No, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu introduced this process of transcendental meditation five hundred years ago. Also, the Vedic literature recommends it, and it is practical. You have seen that my disciples, these boys and girls, immediately experience a transcendental feeling as soon as they begin chanting Hare Krishna. If you practice, you will also see how you are rising to the transcendental platform. So chanting Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare is the easiest process of transcendental meditation.
