--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "hugheshugo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry wrote: > > As I have heard, UC is recognition of Self in > > another object (person/place/thing) . . . as UC > > matures, recognition becomes more frequent and > > the 'scope' of the object expands . . . till > > entire universe can be appreciated as Self. > > However - in BC the fullness of 'inside' and > > 'outside' collide and that inside/outside or > > subject/object distinction becomes only a matter > > of practicality. Also, in BC the Self is gone > > because there is no sense of anything that is non > > Self, no inside/outside, no subject/object. > > Like CC, UC feels very natural and a normal way > > for a human being to live. However, in BC there > > is absolutely no doubt that something really big > > happened, things are really different . . for one > > thing, you are no longer a human being - and That > > does not feel natural. > > Richard Hughes wrote: > You heard right, but it's all an illusion. > It's an illusion, but things are not unreal. Things are presented to us, but because of ignorance they are mistaken for the real thing; things *appear* to be real. That's different than things being an 'illusion' or unreal. In Adwaita, things are not unreal, yet not real; they are an appearance only.
Excerpt from mANDUkya kArikA IV by gauDapAda: "Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is the real truth. The object exists as an object for the knowing subject; but it does not exist outside of conciousness because the distinction of subject and object is within conciousness" (IV 25-27) Sharma). Translation: 'A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy' by Chandrahar Sharma, M.A., D. Phil., D. Litt., LL.B., Shastri, Dept. of Phil., Benares Hindu U. Rider, 1960